| Need help Finalizing Lily Rain build | |
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Frosty015 Newbie
Posts : 25 Join date : 2013-01-06
| Subject: Need help Finalizing Lily Rain build Wed Jan 16, 2013 8:13 am | |
| Here's what I've got, - Spoiler:
【Robot Name】 Lily Rain
【Parts】 BD: Lily Rain BD8 : Lily Rain LG2 : Lily Rain HD8 : Lily Rain BS2 : Lily Rain AM2 : Lily Rain Gear T : Lily Rain Gear F
【Config Check】 COST: OK (?) BS: OK (?) LG: OK (?)
【Stats】 TYPE: 砲 SIZE: S COST: ? CAPA: ? HP: ? STR: 1 TEC: ? WLK: 8 FLY: 39 (?) TGH: 12
LEVEL: 10
【Cartridges】 Capacity +70×6 EIW x2 Float Dash Quick Boost
Overall, this thing needs a lot of work. I chose to go with float dash and quick boost, but I'm not sure if I should get EIW, or focus on another cartridge. Advice I got with tuning is to raise FLY to 39, then focus everything else to TEC. The areas with question marks are pretty much the ones I'm not sure of. Anyways, any suggestions? | |
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Zwiebel Force Cosmic Onion
Posts : 11444 Join date : 2011-01-07 Age : 36 Location : Back on the No-Tomorrow-Lane
| Subject: Re: Need help Finalizing Lily Rain build Wed Jan 16, 2013 3:17 pm | |
| I calced it the way you described it and the result is this OwO - Spoiler:
【Robot Name】 Riri Rain
【Parts】 BD: Lily Rain BD8 : Auto Gun Bit(default) : Lily Rain LG2 [High Boost Beta] [High Boost Beta] [High Tech Alpha] : Lily Rain HD8 [High Boost Beta] [High Boost Beta] [High Tech Alpha] : Lily Rain Gear T [Tech] : Lily Rain Gear F [Tech] : Lily Rain BS2 [High Boost Beta] [High Boost Beta] [High Tech Alpha] : Lily Rain AM2 [High Boost Beta] [High Boost Beta] [High Tech Alpha] : Handy Bazooka [High Tech Alpha] [High Tech Alpha] [High Tech Alpha] : Lily Rain AM2 [High Boost Beta] [High Boost Beta] [High Tech Alpha] : Handy Bazooka [High Tech Alpha] [High Tech Alpha] [Tech]
【Config Check】 COST: OK BS: OK LG: OK
【Stats】 TYPE: 砲 SIZE: S COST: 1255 CAPA: 1300 HP: 426 STR: -11 TEC: 40 WLK: 1 FLY: 39 TGH: 12
LEVEL: 10
【Cartridges】 Capacity +70×6 Enhance Internal Weapon Float Dash Quick Boost Moving Burst
【Materials】 Hidora Cosmos×3 Fudara Cosmos×20 Red Chip×150 Yellow Chip×50 Stabilizer×105 Turbo Charger×50 Drum Magazine×30 Guide Circuit×70
This is what I came up with while not stoned. - Spoiler:
【Robot Name】 Lily Rain
【Parts】 BD: Lily Rain BD8 : Sniping Unit : Lily Rain LG2 [High Tech Alpha] [High Tech Alpha] [High Tech Alpha] : Lily Rain HD8 [High Boost Beta] [High Boost Beta] [High Tech Alpha] : Lily Rain Gear T [High Tech Alpha] : Lily Rain Gear F [High Tech Alpha] : Lily Rain BS2 [High Boost Beta] [High Boost Beta] [High Tech Alpha] : Lily Rain AM2 [High Boost Beta] [High Boost Beta] [High Tech Alpha] : Cosmic Cola [High Boost Beta] [High Tech Alpha] [Tech] : Lily Rain AM2 [High Boost Beta] [High Boost Beta] [High Tech Alpha] : Railgun
【Config Check】 COST: OK BS: OK LG: OK
【Stats】 TYPE: 砲 SIZE: S COST: 1295 CAPA: 1300 HP: 426 STR: -10 TEC: 40 WLK: 3 FLY: 39 TGH: 12
LEVEL: 10
【Cartridges】 Capacity +70×6 Enhance Internal Weapon Float Dash Quick Boost Sniper Sight
【Materials】 Hidora Cosmos×1 Fudara Cosmos×19 Red Chip×145 Yellow Chip×45 Stabilizer×95 Turbo Charger×45 Drum Magazine×27 Guide Circuit×70
You could drop the EIW cartridge for Accele Roll if you want. The EIW would be nice as a midrange option + farming weapon, but Accele Roll is like saying "gtfo melee scrub <3"
Last edited by Zwiebel Force on Wed Jan 16, 2013 5:13 pm; edited 1 time in total | |
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Aurum_Sol Ace Poster
Posts : 1761 Join date : 2011-05-26
| Subject: Re: Need help Finalizing Lily Rain build Wed Jan 16, 2013 4:11 pm | |
| accel roll doesnt work well on non airs if you plan on using it out of a floatdash | |
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Zwiebel Force Cosmic Onion
Posts : 11444 Join date : 2011-01-07 Age : 36 Location : Back on the No-Tomorrow-Lane
| Subject: Re: Need help Finalizing Lily Rain build Wed Jan 16, 2013 5:11 pm | |
| Hao2Accel Roll on non airs: use custom dah (Short Boost/Float Dash), hold down the space bar immediately, tap the directional buttons while in the flight that was started by said custom dash - voilà. This needs some training, but once you got the hang of it you don't wanna miss it.
Aurum would be right if you didn't use a Quick Boost ART (in that case it's pretty risky), but you do, so don't worry owo | |
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Guest Guest
| Subject: Re: Need help Finalizing Lily Rain build Wed Jan 16, 2013 5:52 pm | |
| - Zwiebel Force wrote:
- I calced it the way you described it and the result is this OwO
*insert builds here* The build has 5 cost left over, and 39FLY. You could tune a High Tech Beta, remove a Tech tune, giving you a total of 10 spare cost and a spare slot. In that spare slot, you can fit a Life tune in there. Plus, there's no Wonberbit, in the wonderbit slot. So might as well chuck in a Sword Bit. - Zwiebel Force wrote:
- This needs some training, but once you got the hang of it you don't wanna miss it.
I got the hang of it after a few tries, what training? |
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Zwiebel Force Cosmic Onion
Posts : 11444 Join date : 2011-01-07 Age : 36 Location : Back on the No-Tomorrow-Lane
| Subject: Re: Need help Finalizing Lily Rain build Wed Jan 16, 2013 6:08 pm | |
| I never had much trouble with accel roll either, but some people might be new to keyboard controls, etc, etc.
I know my builds aren't perfect, but apparntly I'm the only one who cares for starters, so yeah ._. | |
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Guest Guest
| Subject: Re: Need help Finalizing Lily Rain build Wed Jan 16, 2013 6:11 pm | |
| - Zwiebel Force wrote:
- I know my builds aren't perfect, but apparntly I'm the only one who cares for starters, so yeah ._.
No. |
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Aurum_Sol Ace Poster
Posts : 1761 Join date : 2011-05-26
| Subject: Re: Need help Finalizing Lily Rain build Wed Jan 16, 2013 6:28 pm | |
| accel out of floatdash is slower than just floatdashing in the long run, with or without practice. its a different story on airs because of 10 second boostgauge
and no, you shouldnt need long to figure that out, considering that you run out of boost directly after the accelroll unless you canceled the floatdash very early and due to your low altitude you will hit the ground long before you actually made use of your momentum. if you want accelroll with a nonair, shortboost will easily be the better movement card for it | |
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Frosty015 Newbie
Posts : 25 Join date : 2013-01-06
| Subject: Re: Need help Finalizing Lily Rain build Thu Jan 17, 2013 6:08 am | |
| Would it be advisable to tune FLY to 39? or should I focus more on TEC? I'm not rather fond of Accele roll, so I'm thinking of dropping it. From the other thread I posted, having carts like Stealth system, Sniper sight, Soul eater or Stealth sytstem is useless, unless I am really good at fragging, and there are also other carts to counter them. So right now: - Code:
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Capacity +70×6 Enhance Internal Weapon x2 Float Dash Quick Boost Should I get a guard cart? or keep EIW? From what I know, EIW won't be very effective unless I boost it to 2 though. Also, for my wonderbit, right now I'm using a dual machine gun bit. | |
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Guest Guest
| Subject: Re: Need help Finalizing Lily Rain build Thu Jan 17, 2013 7:04 am | |
| 40TEC, 38FLY.
Why focus on one when you can have both?
Last 3 breakpoints for fly is 31, 34, and 38. |
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Frosty015 Newbie
Posts : 25 Join date : 2013-01-06
| Subject: Re: Need help Finalizing Lily Rain build Thu Jan 17, 2013 7:13 am | |
| Breakpoints? And which tunes should I get in order to have 40TEC and 38FLY? | |
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Guest Guest
| Subject: Re: Need help Finalizing Lily Rain build Thu Jan 17, 2013 7:21 am | |
| Here, read these.
http://butr.me/bP http://www.cosmicbreakfanforum.com/t7429-boost-run-short-boost-etc-etc-charts |
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Frosty015 Newbie
Posts : 25 Join date : 2013-01-06
| Subject: Re: Need help Finalizing Lily Rain build Thu Jan 17, 2013 7:46 am | |
| *reads*
Wait, will I be unable to tune my TEC once STR goes to zero or..? | |
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Ryuuichiro Ace Poster
Posts : 1275 Join date : 2012-12-02 Age : 32 Location : Je T'aime
| Subject: Re: Need help Finalizing Lily Rain build Thu Jan 17, 2013 7:47 am | |
| I don't really see why you should focus a lot on building HD Lily Rain. She's not as viable in the current arena meta as she was prior to the release of better moes/mecha. Anyway, this is what I have for you since you look like you desperately need a complete walkthrough of how to do things: - Spoiler:
【Robot Name】 Lily Rain
【Parts】 BD: Lily Rain BD8 : Auto Gun Bit(default) : Lily Rain LG2 [High Tech Alpha] [High Tech Alpha] [Tech] : Lily Rain HD8 [High Tech Alpha] [High Tech Alpha] [Tech] : Black Hair Scarf : Ace of Hearts Earrings : Lily Rain BS2 [High Tech Alpha] [High Tech Alpha] [Tech] : Lily Rain AM2 [High Boost Beta] [High Boost Beta] [Boost] : Handy Bazooka [Great Rapid Beta] [Great Rapid Beta] [Tech] : Lily Rain AM2 [High Boost Beta] [High Boost Beta] [Boost] : Handy Bazooka [Great Rapid Beta] [Great Rapid Beta] [Boost]
【Config Check】 COST: OK BS: OK LG: OK
【Stats】 TYPE: 砲 SIZE: S COST: 1305 CAPA: 1305 HP: 416 STR: -1 TEC: 33 WLK: 7 FLY: 31 TGH: 12
LEVEL: 10
【Cartridges】 Capacity +70×6 Enhance Internal Weapon×2 Float Dash Quick Boost
【必要素材】 Hidora Cosmos×7 Fudara Cosmos×10 Threede Cosmos×4 Red Chip×80 Yellow Chip×20 Green Chip×80 Stabilizer×74 Turbo Charger×35 Rapid Crystal×68 Drum Magazine×12 Guide Circuit×42 Heat Ash×60
Should be easy enough to do... 33 tec/31 fly Hits fly breakpoint, gets you enough damage from all weapons You can repeatedly junk her if you fail at tuning and bust a slot. Junking her lets you get her back at Level 0 with all her slots in tact. Useful stuff if you're unlucky at tuning. At least aim to get at least one of the Beta/Alpha tunes on each of the individual parts before you move on. Failing the second tune isn't that game breaking at all. But if you get lucky, then good for you. Tune first to 31 fly since Mobility > Damage in most cases. +1 tunes are your friend. Use them a lot (but only on the third attempt on a 3s part). They are 100% all of the time unlike other tune ups which decrease by 10% for every tune already on a part. I slapped on 2 zooks for obvious purposes. The G.Rapid Betas are not that hard to tune... you can force them even with just Alpha Harmonics. Last slot is for stats since you're gonna get too low on ammo if I put another one (and yea, that would pretty much be overkill) and if you actually last that long in a match to deplete all your weapons. Her internal weapons won't get you pretty far in a match by the way (EIW effectively increases force and range, but not it's speed...though I've read that for ESP weapons, the faster the target, the faster the projectile speed -- that's if your weapons have enough range to actually hit...). Damage is decent enough, I guess. But I wouldn't rely on it too much. As for playstyle: find good elevation; use your psy-weapons for poking at longer ranges; zooks for most airs that threaten to get close; RUN AWAY if you see anything that you know does melee. If you want to learn for yourself, though, read from the links on LXE's post. EDIT: - Frosty015 wrote:
- *reads*
Wait, will I be unable to tune my TEC once STR goes to zero or..? You can Alpha/Beta/Gamma tune stats and decrease any others even if they reached -20 (god help you if that ever happened)
Last edited by Ryuuichiro on Thu Jan 17, 2013 8:02 am; edited 2 times in total | |
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Guest Guest
| Subject: Re: Need help Finalizing Lily Rain build Thu Jan 17, 2013 7:56 am | |
| - Frosty015 wrote:
- *reads*
Wait, will I be unable to tune my TEC once STR goes to zero or..? The game limit is 0str, but you can still tune Alpha/Beta Tec Tunes. Str will remain at 0. |
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Guest Guest
| Subject: Re: Need help Finalizing Lily Rain build Thu Jan 17, 2013 8:05 am | |
| - Ryuuichiro wrote:
- I don't really see why you should focus a lot on building HD Lily Rain.
I don't really see why you would not once you've decided to tune her. @Frosty015 - Don't listen to Ryuuichiro or Fireflywater. |
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Ryuuichiro Ace Poster
Posts : 1275 Join date : 2012-12-02 Age : 32 Location : Je T'aime
| Subject: Re: Need help Finalizing Lily Rain build Thu Jan 17, 2013 8:10 am | |
| I just meant that there are a lot of better UC cores available to build around on to begin with. :> But yea, I guess you got me there | |
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IncuSlave Regular Poster
Posts : 461 Join date : 2012-02-14
| Subject: Re: Need help Finalizing Lily Rain build Thu Jan 17, 2013 6:32 pm | |
| Wait, isn't the first break for TGH 11?
EDIT: Shit, my bad... that's for stun regain :/ Welp, back to the calc, now that I screwed up all my builds. | |
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Aurum_Sol Ace Poster
Posts : 1761 Join date : 2011-05-26
| Subject: Re: Need help Finalizing Lily Rain build Thu Jan 17, 2013 7:02 pm | |
| - IncuSlave wrote:
- Wait, isn't the first break for TGH 11?
EDIT: Shit, my bad... that's for stun regain :/ Welp, back to the calc, now that I screwed up all my builds. first stun regain tough breakpoint should also be 1 | |
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