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PostSubject: Custom Gamemode - PS Breaker Race   Custom Gamemode - PS Breaker Race EmptyTue Jan 08, 2013 7:56 pm

There was this question I had in my head for a long time - What if we turned CosmicBreak into a combat racing game?

So I thought up a concept, where you race from PS to PS and break each of them in order until the opposing team's BP is depleted.

To do this we can use the Map Editor. I've illustrated the concept here.

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There are a few rules to this.

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Please post some comments and suggestions.


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PostSubject: Re: Custom Gamemode - PS Breaker Race   Custom Gamemode - PS Breaker Race EmptyTue Jan 08, 2013 8:02 pm

Interesting concept, but there's no room for tactics or build variety. The team with the most four arms rapid fire spread type weapons wins.
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PostSubject: Re: Custom Gamemode - PS Breaker Race   Custom Gamemode - PS Breaker Race EmptyTue Jan 08, 2013 8:33 pm

What we can put up here would be: Guardians.
NPC's with shit-tons of attack strength and hit points to give "breakers" a challenge.
Kinda what like the Guardian NPC's do in Ragnarok's War of Emperium...though this is just a suggestion
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PostSubject: Re: Custom Gamemode - PS Breaker Race   Custom Gamemode - PS Breaker Race EmptyTue Jan 08, 2013 8:41 pm

Actually, I was thinking up the concept as something that we can make using the map editor.

So stuff like NPCs or anything that can't be added using the map editor can't be in it. Good ideas though.
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PostSubject: Re: Custom Gamemode - PS Breaker Race   Custom Gamemode - PS Breaker Race EmptyTue Jan 08, 2013 8:44 pm

I've never actually tried the map editor...but I guess you're trying to say that you can't put any form of spawns in it... (plus I also read somewhere that you really can't put things like lava or other stuff that damages you except meta cacti in the map you're making)
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PostSubject: Re: Custom Gamemode - PS Breaker Race   Custom Gamemode - PS Breaker Race EmptyTue Jan 08, 2013 8:46 pm

Sounds like a more linear version of the new alpha test rooms, although both teams are free to attack the enemy powerspots or defend their own.

That and I think Powerspots don't cost enough to actually make the match not take 20 years. Breaking each PS repeatedly would be a pain.
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PostSubject: Re: Custom Gamemode - PS Breaker Race   Custom Gamemode - PS Breaker Race EmptyTue Jan 08, 2013 8:53 pm

JinNJuice wrote:
Interesting concept, but there's no room for tactics or build variety. The team with the most four arms rapid fire spread type weapons wins.
Not necessarily.

You can use Hypershot supports to speed up the damage output and/or have Vehics for transport.

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Sounds like a more linear version of the new alpha test rooms, although both teams are free to attack the enemy powerspots or defend their own.

That and I think Powerspots don't cost enough to actually make the match not take 20 years. Breaking each PS repeatedly would be a pain.
Fair point, however it should be viable if there are a small amount of players. I'd say around 1-3 people per team.
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PostSubject: Re: Custom Gamemode - PS Breaker Race   Custom Gamemode - PS Breaker Race EmptyTue Jan 08, 2013 8:58 pm

Correct me if I'm wrong here but there's a way to set a floor above the map to make the paths in the map impossible to see from minimap? If possible you could go with a maze-style map where you have to actually find your way to each Powerspot? Ofcourse the map would have to be either split in two and it'd be a race, or have it be one large maze with enemy and ally powerspots across the entire map as a competition.

A little deviation from the original idea though.

A note though that you can just create a large wall to separate the two teams instead of a River
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PostSubject: Re: Custom Gamemode - PS Breaker Race   Custom Gamemode - PS Breaker Race EmptyTue Jan 08, 2013 11:34 pm

I like the maze idea, though eventually, people would remember the layout.

Another idea to maybe help this out is that the PS are at a high area that can only be reached by using a Hurricane Blow placed in the map, which blows players diagonally upwards. Therefore, it wouldn't be TOO dependent on players with the "best PS breaker alphag" build, but more on actual piloting and some attention. Also, the Hurricane Blow should move us back to the beginning of the maze. Ooh, and Meta Cacti as obstacles for shorter routes.

Oh, right. The maze should be multi-levelled to utilize the full three dimensions.

This is sort of my idea, building from yours:


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PostSubject: Re: Custom Gamemode - PS Breaker Race   Custom Gamemode - PS Breaker Race EmptyWed Jan 09, 2013 12:47 am

So basically, the players navigate through a maze to get to the PS, then go on to the next maze to get to the next PS, and so on and so forth.

There could be competition by placing some PS near the divider so we can have Melfi's shooting Arrow Rain through the divider and stunning the opponents to slow down their PS Breaking.

If you remember the old Pokemon ice path, we could do something like this with those hurricanes.

https://youtu.be/A_iIvxNCdHM?t=3m59s
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PostSubject: Re: Custom Gamemode - PS Breaker Race   Custom Gamemode - PS Breaker Race EmptyWed Jan 09, 2013 1:26 am

Interesting concept. Sounds like it could be fun.
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PostSubject: Re: Custom Gamemode - PS Breaker Race   Custom Gamemode - PS Breaker Race EmptyWed Jan 09, 2013 1:33 am

iKray wrote:
Interesting concept. Sounds like it could be fun.
Interesting concept but I'm a horrible mapmaker. ^^;
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PostSubject: Re: Custom Gamemode - PS Breaker Race   Custom Gamemode - PS Breaker Race EmptyWed Jan 09, 2013 1:42 am

Those ice paths in pokemon are a pain in the ass... one wrong move and you go back to square one... nintendo and gamefreak sure knew how to troll back in the day...
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PostSubject: Re: Custom Gamemode - PS Breaker Race   Custom Gamemode - PS Breaker Race EmptyWed Jan 09, 2013 4:39 am

Ryuuichiro wrote:
Those ice paths in pokemon are a pain in the ass... one wrong move and you go back to square one... nintendo and gamefreak sure knew how to troll back in the day...

Er... wrong thread?


Here's the right one if you're wondering: http://www.cosmicbreakfanforum.com/t11036-pokemon-x-y
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PostSubject: Re: Custom Gamemode - PS Breaker Race   Custom Gamemode - PS Breaker Race EmptyWed Jan 09, 2013 7:32 am

I've only ever touched the map editor briefly but I LOVE the idea of some sort of race mode.

With some of the niggles hampering this idea I may do some more research. I'd really like to see something like this in game. (That and I miss night highway from the regular map roster.)
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PostSubject: Re: Custom Gamemode - PS Breaker Race   Custom Gamemode - PS Breaker Race EmptyWed Jan 09, 2013 7:36 am

Gerrion wrote:
Ryuuichiro wrote:
Those ice paths in pokemon are a pain in the ass... one wrong move and you go back to square one... nintendo and gamefreak sure knew how to troll back in the day...

Er... wrong thread?
Nope, right thread.
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PostSubject: Re: Custom Gamemode - PS Breaker Race   Custom Gamemode - PS Breaker Race EmptyWed Jan 09, 2013 3:31 pm

For preventing people from going backward, you can use a one way stair that is too tall to fly over once you cross it and a low tunnel in a wall after that to force them to drop to ground
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PostSubject: Re: Custom Gamemode - PS Breaker Race   Custom Gamemode - PS Breaker Race EmptyWed Jan 09, 2013 4:16 pm

' ^ ' I thought my idea was smart enough to prevent going backwards: gigantic death pit with the PS in the middle of it, which can only be reached for a moment by Hurricane Blow placed in the map.
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PostSubject: Re: Custom Gamemode - PS Breaker Race   Custom Gamemode - PS Breaker Race EmptyWed Jan 09, 2013 9:12 pm

Resireth gave me his map.

http://www.mediafire.com/?i0301110qaysrks

It's a bit short as breaking 2 PS would end the game pretty quickly. So we need to add more complex mazes.
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PostSubject: Re: Custom Gamemode - PS Breaker Race   Custom Gamemode - PS Breaker Race EmptyWed Jan 09, 2013 9:17 pm

Been meaning to ask this... When making a custom map do you have the power to place different spawn point after a PS has been destroyed?
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PostSubject: Re: Custom Gamemode - PS Breaker Race   Custom Gamemode - PS Breaker Race EmptyWed Jan 09, 2013 10:25 pm

As far as I know, no.
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PostSubject: Re: Custom Gamemode - PS Breaker Race   Custom Gamemode - PS Breaker Race EmptyThu Jan 10, 2013 4:31 am

Spent an entire afternoon making this.

Please let me know if there are bugs. Please take some screenshots.

I'm planning to add a second level to this map.

EDIT - Bug fixed the map

http://www.mediafire.com/?l2xicc80es8xjlv

1v1 ends too quickly, so I'll try making 2v2 maps, then 3v3 maps.
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PostSubject: Re: Custom Gamemode - PS Breaker Race   Custom Gamemode - PS Breaker Race EmptyThu Jan 10, 2013 10:52 am

You're a WIZ player, so I'd rather not play with you.

Just kidding. When are you usually on? I might test it out with you.
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PostSubject: Re: Custom Gamemode - PS Breaker Race   Custom Gamemode - PS Breaker Race EmptyFri Jan 11, 2013 12:29 am

I just noticed that there is a limitation on how many powerspots you can have per team.

So in other words, we're going to have to make maps that are circuit based.

JinNJuice wrote:
You're a WIZ player, so I'd rather not play with you.

Just kidding. When are you usually on? I might test it out with you.
I'm WIZ but I want to be BRD.

I hang around ch1 Resort Area, and I'm usually online around 7pm (GMT+10).

EDIT - I've added a second level to the map.

Download it here - http://www.mediafire.com/?6l9udzx19q990y4

Please help me check for bugs.
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