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+4Miko Miko Spark JinNJuice That_Wiesel_Guy Frederica-Bernkastel 8 posters |
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Frederica-Bernkastel Regular Poster
Posts : 302 Join date : 2011-03-25
| Subject: Crimrose Sigma's melee - str or tec based? Fri Nov 23, 2012 11:17 pm | |
| Sup! Got a couple of questions regarding the new Crim.
Anyone know whether her melee is tec or str based?
Also, any cart recommendations? Weapons worth tuning?
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That_Wiesel_Guy Legendary Poster
Posts : 4551 Join date : 2011-08-09 Age : 431
| Subject: Re: Crimrose Sigma's melee - str or tec based? Fri Nov 23, 2012 11:25 pm | |
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JinNJuice Regular Poster
Posts : 449 Join date : 2011-07-10
| Subject: Re: Crimrose Sigma's melee - str or tec based? Sat Nov 24, 2012 1:01 am | |
| Being a small humanoid, she is naturally weak. If you wanna be the silly air melee, tgh tunes, Stun Regain if she has it, MAYBE CV (I wouldn't recommend it, being super weak still), High Grappler and High Gladiator, and then right click harder. Only difference is that you might be crushing your spacebar. | |
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That_Wiesel_Guy Legendary Poster
Posts : 4551 Join date : 2011-08-09 Age : 431
| Subject: Re: Crimrose Sigma's melee - str or tec based? Sat Nov 24, 2012 2:23 am | |
| For air melee, you'll DEFINITELY want CV. It really helps seeing how easily you get stunned as an air and also makes a nice escape tactic. Accele Roll as well, if you plan on not using wings alot and coupled with float dash is a nice combination. If that's the case, take quick boost. Melee standalone is fine by itself, (You could do slow tunes, but she's so capa tight, it's pretty suffering) but Seraph Shot and Homing Blaster do need tunes, I'd recommend rapids, on both.
But then again, I'm bad, it's just me. It's just my cheap 2 cents. | |
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Miko Miko Spark Regular Poster
Other / Decline to state Posts : 267 Join date : 2012-05-14
| Subject: Re: Crimrose Sigma's melee - str or tec based? Sat Nov 24, 2012 3:08 am | |
| - That_Wiesel_Guy wrote:
- For air melee, you'll DEFINITELY want CV. It really helps seeing how easily you get stunned as an air and also makes a nice escape tactic. Accele Roll as well, if you plan on not using wings alot and coupled with float dash is a nice combination. If that's the case, take quick boost. Melee standalone is fine by itself, (You could do slow tunes, but she's so capa tight, it's pretty suffering) but Seraph Shot and Homing Blaster do need tunes, I'd recommend rapids, on both.
But then again, I'm bad, it's just me. It's just my cheap 2 cents. I wish her build allowed all that... Her TGH is horrid and bumping it up is already a hassle, so sacrificing it for higher capacity doesn't sound like a great idea. Besides her cost is f*cking huge as is. Sadly the build I'm planning to get for her only includes Quick Boost + Broad Radar + Stun Regain + CV x2 + Prop Bit + Capa Tune + Accele Roll and 12 TGH, 31 TEC, and 38 FLY, not being able to even tune the weapons that much and I'm already maxed out. Even though I'm not going melee (Frankly the tracking is terrible), CV on this bot is really reliable and on any semi low TGH AIR. But then again this is the first time I CV tuned an AIR before, so I dunno if she needs 2 or just 1. Dunno if Broad should be dropped or not, but considering she's still a squishy AIR and my personal preference I wouldn't ever let go of Broad in fear of Mialy/Monica/Kagura/Illumis/etc. EDIT: Calc update has her now EDIT 2: Hurr I forgot I can just use Tough Tunes - Spoiler:
【Robot Name】 Seraph Crimrose
【Parts】 BD: Seraph Crimrose BD11 : Propeller Bit : Seraph Crimrose LG4 [Crimson Veil] [Crimson Veil] [Capacity] : Seraph Crimrose BS6 [Tough] : Seraph Crimrose HD10 [Tough] : Eve Ornament : Ace of Hearts Earrings : Mecha Jetter OMG BS [EX High Tech Alpha] [High Boost Beta] : Seraph Crimrose AM4 [High Boost Beta] : Seraphim Lance [Tough] : Dancing Maracas [High Tech Alpha] [High Tech Alpha] : Seraph Crimrose AM4 [High Boost Beta] : Seraphim Lance [Tough] [High Rapid Beta] : Cosmic Cola [High Tech Alpha] [High Tech Alpha]
【Config Check】 COST: OK BS: OK LG: OK
【Stats】 TYPE: 空 SIZE: S COST: 1440 CAPA: 1440 HP: 460 STR: 4 TEC: 31 WLK: 5 FLY: 38 TGH: 12
LEVEL: 9
【Cartridges】 Capacity +70×5 Enhance Internal Weapon Stun Regain Quick Boost Broad Radar Accele Roll
Her horrid capacity doesn't allow me to do much else with the build. Not to derail or anything but any tips? | |
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Frederica-Bernkastel Regular Poster
Posts : 302 Join date : 2011-03-25
| Subject: Re: Crimrose Sigma's melee - str or tec based? Sat Nov 24, 2012 7:48 am | |
| What else does her Enhance Internal Weapon do besides adding ammo for the wings?
I was gonna take two but now I feel like dropping one for Broad Radar.
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Kuzuha What Abbey Get
Posts : 2441 Join date : 2011-10-03 Location : Philippines
| Subject: Re: Crimrose Sigma's melee - str or tec based? Sat Nov 24, 2012 10:20 am | |
| not all melee are str based (ex. Lux Legion's melee is tec based) | |
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Akhenderson Adept Poster
Posts : 864 Join date : 2011-12-12 Age : 29 Location : Somewhere In Illinois
| Subject: Re: Crimrose Sigma's melee - str or tec based? Sat Nov 24, 2012 10:26 am | |
| I don't know why you guys care so much about having too much cost nowadays if you don't ever die... but whatever. - Spoiler:
【Robot Name】 Seraph Crimrose
【Parts】 BD: Seraph Crimrose BD11 : Propeller Bit : Seraph Crimrose LG4 [Crimson Veil] [Crimson Veil] [Capacity] : Seraph Crimrose BS6 : Seraph Crimrose HD10 : Side Veil : Ace of Hearts Earrings : Raystag BS : Seraph Crimrose AM4 [High Boost Alpha] : Seraphim Lance [Slow] [Slow] : Cosmic Beer : Seraph Crimrose AM4 [High Boost Alpha] : Seraphim Lance : Dancing Maracas [High Boost Beta]
【Config Check】 COST: OK BS: OK LG: OK
【Stats】 TYPE: 空 SIZE: S COST: 1440 CAPA: 1440 HP: 455 STR: 15 TEC: 18 WLK: 5 FLY: 38 TGH: 7
LEVEL: 10
【Cartridges】 Capacity +70×5 Stun Regain Float Dash Quick Boost Quick Land Broad Radar Accele Roll
【必要素材】 Hidora Cosmos×100 Fudara Cosmos×43 Midoro Cosmos×23 Yoguru Cosmos×10 Fourda Cosmos×2 Red Chip×5 Blue Chip×20 Yellow Chip×25 Green Chip×20 Rainbow Chip×68 Power Amp×200 Turbo Charger×23 Physical Stone×250 Rapid Crystal×54 Drum Magazine×17 Snail Liquid×66 Hard Plate×100 Screw Bolts×200 Miracle Ammonite×60 Shining Feather×60
My set up has a rather lower damage output compared to other builds that people might have been thinking of making, but incorporates slow tunes to shut down enemies, 38 fly, accel roll and Crimson Veil. With Air Melee, your prime targets are usually going to be (In order of priorities): Other Air Units Hoppers Support Units (Special cases can occur if they are too good of a support unit, in which, you really want to take them out as quickly as possible.) Art Units Considering Seraph's melee has multiple hits incorporated within her melee combo, proc'ing Slow is going to be a common occurrence. The tec is there to simply to have the damage of her Spear Nova and Seraph Spear Wave Attack deal decent enough damage where it's actually going to be threatening. I would not see why you would ever need the homing blaster as the range and speed of the weapon is considerably lower compared to Aquila Girl or Lios. (Not to mention, the force of her weapon is also lower, which is significant considering an extra 1 force on multihitting weapons are a significant decrease in output) EDIT: Also Kuzuha: It is tested that Seraph's melee is str based, and not tec based. If CS made a mistake, well... nuts. EDIT v2.0: right after I said that the homing blaster is useless, I guess if you slowed down the enemy, the homing blaster can do a number on enemies who cant run, so disregard that I said, "I would not see why you would ever... ...lower compared to Aquila Girl or Lios." Even more so, I think it would still be better if You had the Seraph Spear Wave attack as your main. | |
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Spectrion Newbie
Posts : 65 Join date : 2011-08-03 Age : 30
| Subject: Re: Crimrose Sigma's melee - str or tec based? Sat Nov 24, 2012 11:34 pm | |
| I heard slow can only proc on the first spear hit though. | |
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Akhenderson Adept Poster
Posts : 864 Join date : 2011-12-12 Age : 29 Location : Somewhere In Illinois
| Subject: Re: Crimrose Sigma's melee - str or tec based? Sat Nov 24, 2012 11:44 pm | |
| - Spectrion wrote:
- I heard slow can only proc on the first spear hit though.
Tis a lie I stated. Pay no attention to it. | |
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ppxeno Adept Poster
Posts : 553 Join date : 2011-04-29
| Subject: Re: Crimrose Sigma's melee - str or tec based? Tue Nov 27, 2012 7:40 pm | |
| - Spoiler:
【Robot Name】 Seraph Crimrose
【Parts】 BD: Seraph Crimrose BD11 : Propeller Bit : Seraph Crimrose LG4 [Crimson Veil] : Seraph Crimrose BS6 [High Boost Alpha] [High Boost Alpha] : Seraph Crimrose HD10 [High Boost Alpha] [High Boost Alpha] : Blue Flower [High Power Alpha] : Seraph SIGMA Gear F [High Power Alpha] : Sword Wing BS [High Power Alpha] [High Power Alpha] : Seraph Crimrose AM4 [High Power Alpha] [High Power Alpha] : Seraphim Lance [High Power Alpha] : Busted Stungun [High Tough] [High Tough] : Seraph Crimrose AM4 [High Power Alpha] [High Power Alpha] : Seraphim Lance [High Power Alpha] : Busted Stungun [High Tough]
【Config Check】 COST: OK BS: OK LG: OK
【Stats】 TYPE: 空 SIZE: S COST: 1390 CAPA: 1390 HP: 440 STR: 33 TEC: 5 WLK: 6 FLY: 38 TGH: 16
LEVEL: 8
【Cartridges】 Capacity +70×5 Beam Guard Stun Regain Float Dash Accele Roll
【必要素材】 Hidora Cosmos×50 Fudara Cosmos×37 Midoro Cosmos×10 Yoguru Cosmos×5 Blue Chip×110 Yellow Chip×40 Green Chip×10 Rainbow Chip×10 Power Amp×90 Turbo Charger×36 Brake Damper×39 Physical Stone×50 Drum Magazine×28 Shock Graphite×70 Hard Plate×83 Miracle Ammonite×20 Shining Feather×20
idk if i wanna make her tech based or str based...cant decide | |
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Spectrion Newbie
Posts : 65 Join date : 2011-08-03 Age : 30
| Subject: Re: Crimrose Sigma's melee - str or tec based? Tue Nov 27, 2012 9:55 pm | |
| Well 3 out of her 4 weapons are tech based, so unless you want to melee (not sure why considering she's a low tgh air and lnd melee would rape her) its not worth it to tune stg. I think Ill play her as an upgraded fusion between seraph and AG. Hopefully they make her melee tech based so we can get the best of both worlds. | |
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