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Breaker-Z Regular Poster
Posts : 185 Join date : 2012-02-02 Age : 27
| Subject: Some stuffs Thu Nov 01, 2012 3:30 pm | |
| So,yeah. Just a bunch of questions. Vanguard Lancer: 36 wlk and sway or boost run and hop? How many internals? on this build, i only have 1, is that ok? Also, i dont know what a good level of tgh is.how much would be acceptable for a lancer? - Spoiler:
?Robot Name? Vanguard
?Parts? BD: Vanguard BD3 : Lance Bit(default) : Lazflamme LG [High Power Alpha] [High Power Alpha] : Jikun BS [High Power Alpha] : Sheeno HD [High Run Alpha] [High Run Alpha] : Silver Headphones [High Power Beta] : Berry Earrings : Katana Max BS [High Run Alpha] [High Run Alpha] : Vanguard AM3 [High Run Alpha] [High Run Alpha] : Two Handed Lance [High Run Alpha] [High Run Alpha]
?Config Check? COST: OK BS: OK LG: OK
?Stats? TYPE: ? SIZE: M COST: 1035 CAPA: 1090 HP: 400 STR: 40 TEC: -3 WLK: 36 FLY: 1 TGH: 11
LEVEL: 8
?Cartridges? Capacity +60×5 Enhance Internal Weapon Tough Runner Sway
?????? Fudara Cosmos×12 Blue Chip×35 Green Chip×85 Power Amp×32 Engine Shaft×72 Shock Graphite×24 Snail Liquid×56
Also, should i tune anything on the lance or no? Destructor: I saw reVelske doing really well with one of these and a grandum bs. Anyone know his build?(or anything similar,really) I assume a middle bazooka would probably be the best bazooka for art's. Next best thing for a fat art would probably be a large bazooka,right? Double gatling mod-are these any good? i assumed they were crap because of the ammo. can anyone prove me wrong? Dismoke: I got this thing and i junked it(because its a SUP). Any reason to use his core or parts? All of his weapons seemed useless...or maybe i just dont have a clue how to play sup's. I might post more questions later. Thanks in advance. | |
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tehprognoob Ace Poster
Posts : 1712 Join date : 2011-07-22 Age : 28
| Subject: Re: Some stuffs Thu Nov 01, 2012 3:54 pm | |
| Dismoke shuts down FC Seraphs.
The smoke disables lockon | |
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JadeCicada Regular Poster
Posts : 434 Join date : 2012-03-26 Location : DOS
| Subject: Re: Some stuffs Thu Nov 01, 2012 4:03 pm | |
| On Vanguard - you have High Run Alpha tunes when you have negative tech. You can do High Run Beta to consume fewer Green Chips and free up a fair amount of capacity in exchange for a bit more Blue Chips. All eight conversions would get you 40 capa and exchange 40 of the green chip cost for 40 blue chips.
Also consider doing both Boost Run *and* Sway. It's a potent combination.
Middle Bazooka is a great weapon for M-Arts. Still works on L-Arts, but M-Arts tend to be lower end-cost and have smaller hitboxes for the same damage potential and mobility. That said, Destructor already gets you access to Grandum BS, so using a Middle Bazooka is fine. That said, I'm pretty sure reVelske's build uses a Large Bazooka.
Double Gatling Mod is not impressive if you compare it to a normal Double Gatling. But without one, it's still pretty serviceable. If you use it more for just the raw damage output, some force tuning will essentially give you a Combat Gatling that empties out its ammo twice as fast for a faster damage rate in that (you'd need to get +2 force total, so at least H Force + G Force). This isn't necessarily the best of ideas, but even untuned, you still have an extremely high damage output.
Dismoke's BD disables lockons and melee tracking. There's a lot of fun use to be had here, although anyone with a main weapon won't have too much issue.
Dismoke is also an L-SUP, this means that, really, actually, the main thing is that he can carry a Large Bazooka. Which is pretty nice, since SUP types don't have a weapon weakness, you can be a potent threat to airs without being prey to every melee. Again, your BD sub is handy here.
His AM weapon has the fanciness of any general magnum weapon - 16 force, 320 speed, nice bullet size. It has a lower ammo, but hey, it guarantees Disorder status on hit, making it absurd. An M-SUP could probably make great use of it if you don't want to put it on Dismoke himself. It shouldn't be your only weapon, since 16 force and 140 ammo isn't going to last you much even with other allies. | |
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tehprognoob Ace Poster
Posts : 1712 Join date : 2011-07-22 Age : 28
| Subject: Re: Some stuffs Thu Nov 01, 2012 4:38 pm | |
| Lancer isn't quite like the other 2 Vanguards; his melee has some nice knockback With any Vanguard I think you'll want 2X EIW. You need to tune the Lance and taking boost run lets you drop WLK for those tunes Vanguard without C. Veil is really prone to getting fucked, BTW Yerrowtier - Spoiler:
【Robot Name】 Vanguard
【Parts】 BD: Vanguard BD3 : Lance Bit(default) : Ouka LG [Crimson Veil] [Crimson Veil] [Great Capacity] : Tonosama Lander BS [High Run Beta] [High Run Beta] [High Run Beta] : Sturbanger HD2 [High Run Beta] [Tank] [Run] : Silver Headphones [Run] : Berry Earrings : Tonosama Lander BS [High Power Beta] [High Power Beta] [High Power Beta] : Vanguard AM3 [High Power Beta] [High Power Beta] [High Power Beta] : Two Handed Lance [High Gladiator] [High Gladiator] [Run]
【Config Check】 COST: OK BS: OK LG: OK
【Stats】 TYPE: 陸 SIZE: M COST: 1260 CAPA: 1260 HP: 460 STR: 40 TEC: -9 WLK: 33 FLY: 1 TGH: 12
LEVEL: 10
【Cartridges】 Capacity +60×6 Enhance Internal Weapon×2 Sway Boost Run
【必要素材】 Hidora Cosmos×103 Fudara Cosmos×50 Midoro Cosmos×61 Yoguru Cosmos×30 Fourda Cosmos×2 Blue Chip×70 Green Chip×70 Rainbow Chip×82 Power Amp×630 Engine Shaft×656 Physical Stone×100 Scope Lens×34 Rapid Crystal×646 Shock Graphite×18 Snail Liquid×12 Prism Glass×46 Hard Plate×100 Hulk Meteorite×200 Screw Bolts×320 Steel Wheel×312 Miracle Ammonite×140 Shining Feather×140
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Zwiebel Force Cosmic Onion
Posts : 11444 Join date : 2011-01-07 Age : 36 Location : Back on the No-Tomorrow-Lane
| Subject: Re: Some stuffs Thu Nov 01, 2012 5:57 pm | |
| Dismokes internal enables you to avoid pretty much any lock-on sub-weapon. Awesome on some maps (i.e. Sandy Storm) and useless on others (i.e. Rail Walker). His AMs are fantastic on their own. Even if you decide not to use his core, you should definitely make use of the AMs. | |
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Relict? [Moderator]
Posts : 5786 Join date : 2011-02-08 Age : 31 Location : San Diego
| Subject: Re: Some stuffs Fri Nov 02, 2012 2:05 am | |
| Actually, if I recall correctly, reV uses a Blast Bazooka since he doesn't have a Middle Bazooka. - poverty build:
【Robot Name、EDestructor
【Parts、EBD�E�EDestructor BD �E�EMissile Bit(default) �E�EThoarla LG [High Boost Beta] �E�EGrandum BS [High Boost Beta] �E�EMach Knight HD2 [High Boost Beta] �E�EEve Ornament �E�EAce of Hearts Earrings �E�EMaril March BS [High Boost Beta] �E�EAccel Saber AM [High Boost Beta] [High Boost Beta] �E�EBlast Bazooka Mod [Great Rapid Beta] [Great Rapid Beta] [Paralyze] �E�EAccel Saber AM [High Boost Beta] [High Boost Beta] �E�EHandy Magnum Mod
【Config Check、ECOST�E�EOK BS�E�EOK LG�E�EOK
【Stats、ETYPE�E�E砲 SIZE�E�EL COST�E�E1110 CAPA�E�E1210 HP�E�E477 STR�E�E2 TEC�E�E26 WLK�E�E1 FLY�E�E31 TGH�E�E21
LEVEL�E�E10
【Cartridges、ECapacity +60ÁE Beam Guard Stun Regain Short Boost
【忁E��素材、EFudara CosmosÁE Threede CosmosÁE Fourda CosmosÁE Red ChipÁE0 Yellow ChipÁE0 Green ChipÁE0 Black ChipÁE5 Turbo ChargerÁE0 Brake DamperÁE3 Rapid CrystalÁE4 Drum MagazineÁE4 Shock GraphiteÁE3 Heat AshÁE0
- Try to aim for this:
【Robot Name、EDestructor
【Parts、EBD�E�EDestructor BD �E�EMissile Bit(default) �E�EThoarla LG [High Boost Beta] [High Tech Alpha] �E�EGrandum BS [High Boost Beta] [High Tech Alpha] �E�EMach Knight HD2 [High Boost Beta] [High Tech Alpha] [High Tech Alpha] �E�EEve Ornament �E�EAce of Hearts Earrings �E�EMaril March BS [High Boost Beta] [High Tech Alpha] �E�EAccel Saber AM [High Boost Beta] [High Boost Beta] [High Tech Alpha] �E�EBlast Bazooka Mod [Great Rapid Beta] [Great Rapid Beta] [Paralyze] �E�EAccel Saber AM [High Boost Beta] [High Boost Beta] [High Tech Alpha] �E�EHandy Magnum Mod
【Config Check、ECOST�E�EOK BS�E�EOK LG�E�EOK
【Stats、ETYPE�E�E砲 SIZE�E�EL COST�E�E1210 CAPA�E�E1210 HP�E�E477 STR�E�E-5 TEC�E�E40 WLK�E�E1 FLY�E�E31 TGH�E�E21
LEVEL�E�E10
【Cartridges、ECapacity +60ÁE Beam Guard Stun Regain Short Boost Accele Roll
【忁E��素材、EFudara CosmosÁE5 Threede CosmosÁE Fourda CosmosÁE Red ChipÁE10 Yellow ChipÁE0 Green ChipÁE0 Black ChipÁE5 StabilizerÁE3 Turbo ChargerÁE0 Brake DamperÁE3 Rapid CrystalÁE4 Drum MagazineÁE4 Shock GraphiteÁE3 Guide CircuitÁE9 Heat AshÁE0
...found my next project! or maybe I should tune some alpha air or feng mei tao instead | |
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reVelske Grand Poster
Posts : 3758 Join date : 2011-01-31 Age : 38 Location : Robot Heaven
| Subject: Re: Some stuffs Fri Nov 02, 2012 3:21 am | |
| 【Robot Name】 愛をとりもどせ!!
【Parts】 BD: Destructor BD : Sword Bit : Big Mountaiz LG [Hypershot] [Hypershot] [Great Capacity] : Vanguard HD [High Tech Alpha] [High Tech Alpha] [High Tech Alpha] : Eve Ornament : Ace of Hearts Earrings [High Tech Alpha] : Grandum BS [High Boost Beta] [High Boost Beta] [High Boost Beta] : Air Raider AM [High Boost Beta] [High Boost Beta] [High Boost Beta] : Viper Shield [High Tech Alpha] [High Tech Alpha] [High Tech Alpha] : Air Raider AM [High Boost Beta] [High Boost Beta] [High Boost Beta] : Blast Bazooka [Rapid] [High Rapid Beta] [Paralyze]
【Config Check】 COST: OK BS: OK LG: OK
【Stats】 TYPE: 砲 SIZE: L COST: 1315 CAPA: 1320 HP: 532 STR: -9 TEC: 37 WLK: 1 FLY: 32 TGH: 18
LEVEL: 10
【Cartridges】 Capacity +60×7 Blast Guard Stun Regain Short Boost Accele Roll
This is by no means a serious build, it was just an attempt to revive and optimize my old Grandum BS Destructor to be more survivable and "meta-relevant" (*coughs*), the old build I had used to use 2way missile, which actually provided him with more overall DPS than the revamped version (2way is not really that bad, hits like a truck) simply because blast baz mod is more of a self-defense weapon than DPS-focus'd. | |
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Midreus Adept Poster
Posts : 686 Join date : 2011-03-01 Age : 31 Location : sayang world
| Subject: Re: Some stuffs Fri Nov 02, 2012 5:31 am | |
| hm?
a minor niggle, but swapping the eve ornament for a 1s hana kanzashi would allow you to tune one more htec alpha (or a life tune) while retaining 31 fly, no?
unless the breakpoints changed without me knowing | |
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reVelske Grand Poster
Posts : 3758 Join date : 2011-01-31 Age : 38 Location : Robot Heaven
| Subject: Re: Some stuffs Fri Nov 02, 2012 5:38 am | |
| ^yeah, but I don't use Hana as it looks like shit on bots (yes your alphags look like shit, eso) | |
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Suguri God Poster
Posts : 7765 Join date : 2011-01-07 Age : 25 Location : Japan
| Subject: Re: Some stuffs Fri Nov 02, 2012 5:54 am | |
| Your face looks like shit. | |
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tehprognoob Ace Poster
Posts : 1712 Join date : 2011-07-22 Age : 28
| Subject: Re: Some stuffs Fri Nov 02, 2012 9:26 am | |
| - Relict? wrote:
- Actually, if I recall correctly, reV uses a Blast Bazooka since he doesn't have a Middle Bazooka.
- poverty build:
【Robot Name、EDestructor
【Parts、EBD�E�EDestructor BD �E�EMissile Bit(default) �E�EThoarla LG [High Boost Beta] �E�EGrandum BS [High Boost Beta] �E�EMach Knight HD2 [High Boost Beta] �E�EEve Ornament �E�EAce of Hearts Earrings �E�EMaril March BS [High Boost Beta] �E�EAccel Saber AM [High Boost Beta] [High Boost Beta] �E�EBlast Bazooka Mod [Great Rapid Beta] [Great Rapid Beta] [Paralyze] �E�EAccel Saber AM [High Boost Beta] [High Boost Beta] �E�EHandy Magnum Mod
【Config Check、ECOST�E�EOK BS�E�EOK LG�E�EOK
【Stats、ETYPE�E�E砲 SIZE�E�EL COST�E�E1110 CAPA�E�E1210 HP�E�E477 STR�E�E2 TEC�E�E26 WLK�E�E1 FLY�E�E31 TGH�E�E21
LEVEL�E�E10
【Cartridges、ECapacity +60ÁE Beam Guard Stun Regain Short Boost
【忁E��素材、EFudara CosmosÁE Threede CosmosÁE Fourda CosmosÁE Red ChipÁE0 Yellow ChipÁE0 Green ChipÁE0 Black ChipÁE5 Turbo ChargerÁE0 Brake DamperÁE3 Rapid CrystalÁE4 Drum MagazineÁE4 Shock GraphiteÁE3 Heat AshÁE0
- Try to aim for this:
【Robot Name、EDestructor
【Parts、EBD�E�EDestructor BD �E�EMissile Bit(default) �E�EThoarla LG [High Boost Beta] [High Tech Alpha] �E�EGrandum BS [High Boost Beta] [High Tech Alpha] �E�EMach Knight HD2 [High Boost Beta] [High Tech Alpha] [High Tech Alpha] �E�EEve Ornament �E�EAce of Hearts Earrings �E�EMaril March BS [High Boost Beta] [High Tech Alpha] �E�EAccel Saber AM [High Boost Beta] [High Boost Beta] [High Tech Alpha] �E�EBlast Bazooka Mod [Great Rapid Beta] [Great Rapid Beta] [Paralyze] �E�EAccel Saber AM [High Boost Beta] [High Boost Beta] [High Tech Alpha] �E�EHandy Magnum Mod
【Config Check、ECOST�E�EOK BS�E�EOK LG�E�EOK
【Stats、ETYPE�E�E砲 SIZE�E�EL COST�E�E1210 CAPA�E�E1210 HP�E�E477 STR�E�E-5 TEC�E�E40 WLK�E�E1 FLY�E�E31 TGH�E�E21
LEVEL�E�E10
【Cartridges、ECapacity +60ÁE Beam Guard Stun Regain Short Boost Accele Roll
【忁E��素材、EFudara CosmosÁE5 Threede CosmosÁE Fourda CosmosÁE Red ChipÁE10 Yellow ChipÁE0 Green ChipÁE0 Black ChipÁE5 StabilizerÁE3 Turbo ChargerÁE0 Brake DamperÁE3 Rapid CrystalÁE4 Drum MagazineÁE4 Shock GraphiteÁE3 Guide CircuitÁE9 Heat AshÁE0
...found my next project!
or maybe I should tune some alpha air or feng mei tao instead I'm being nitpicky but you should put Grandum BS on the BD's BS slot instead of on the LG's BS slot It reduces the vertical hitbox and doesn't look ridiculous | |
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reVelske Grand Poster
Posts : 3758 Join date : 2011-01-31 Age : 38 Location : Robot Heaven
| Subject: Re: Some stuffs Fri Nov 02, 2012 10:25 am | |
| - Suguri wrote:
- I wish my arts are as sexy as rev's
You are just jealous of fatty and wish you could have your body (as well as your alphags'/fagmei's) ravaged by him. | |
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Relict? [Moderator]
Posts : 5786 Join date : 2011-02-08 Age : 31 Location : San Diego
| Subject: Re: Some stuffs Fri Nov 02, 2012 4:26 pm | |
| - tehprognoob wrote:
- I'm being nitpicky but you should put Grandum BS on the BD's BS slot instead of on the LG's BS slot
It reduces the vertical hitbox and doesn't look ridiculous Looks are important, too! Thanks. | |
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