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PostSubject: Aila and muchi build (need feedback)   Aila and muchi build (need feedback) EmptySat May 19, 2012 11:10 am

Aila

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muchi Moving burst build

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on aila ..

i want to tune atleast redtier boostrun ( since i'm boostrun lover.)
and want 2 clearance 2 slow atleast.

but it seems if i toss a third slow into a str it will be around 32 str.
force that different around 5 force is so low.. so i'll slow tune dat last slot to confirm more guaranteed.
Is str is so low?
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PostSubject: Re: Aila and muchi build (need feedback)   Aila and muchi build (need feedback) EmptySat May 19, 2012 11:13 am

Moved.

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PostSubject: Re: Aila and muchi build (need feedback)   Aila and muchi build (need feedback) EmptySat May 19, 2012 11:49 am

jaktree wrote:
Aila

Spoiler:

muchi Moving burst build

Spoiler:


on aila ..

i want to tune atleast redtier boostrun ( since i'm boostrun lover.)
and want 2 clearance 2 slow atleast.

but it seems if i toss a third slow into a str it will be around 32 str.
force that different around 5 force is so low.. so i'll slow tune dat last slot to confirm more guaranteed.
Is str is so low?


Clearance is nice, but C.Veil helps melees a whole lot more. It lets them easily stunlock enemy landtypes, and reach/escape a target in cases. The muchi build is a bit...bad.

Capa tunes on alphastriking bots isnt uncommon, so I'd try something like this
Spoiler:

It's pretty high cost, so be careful when playing it.

As for aila, try this:
Spoiler:


She also has a capacity tune, but I feel like the extra cost is worth the ability to take 2x C.Veil. I'm sure though if you decided not to take them you could pump a lot more str in place of them.
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PostSubject: Re: Aila and muchi build (need feedback)   Aila and muchi build (need feedback) EmptySat May 19, 2012 11:56 am

i don't like crimson veil .

because it doesn't activate when i want to use it..

thus aila is a low tgh bots. seem to can activate cv easily.

but when it activate it could be like a red hp danger...

i love clearance more now.. because it can activate easily

and give all guard(don't sure) can able to fought a eris bot.
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PostSubject: Re: Aila and muchi build (need feedback)   Aila and muchi build (need feedback) EmptySat May 19, 2012 12:00 pm

Eris's melees don't exactly proc revenge tunes very easily, and even if Clearance did activate, it wouldn't save you from the rest of her combos.

They both have the same rate of activation though.
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PostSubject: Re: Aila and muchi build (need feedback)   Aila and muchi build (need feedback) EmptySat May 19, 2012 12:03 pm

They both have the same activation rate.
And they both give All Guard.
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PostSubject: Re: Aila and muchi build (need feedback)   Aila and muchi build (need feedback) EmptySat May 19, 2012 12:08 pm

oh i see it..

get it all now thx you guys.

have question.. crimson veil that give you immunity to stun .. give all guard.

does crimson veil protect a stun like winberl am.?

explain to me about different of clearance and cv

- if i were right

CV = Immune stun but can't immune effect like slow , fire , winberl for a time

clearance = if slow effected. it can remove slow and give a immune debuff for a time.
but can't immune stun right?
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PostSubject: Re: Aila and muchi build (need feedback)   Aila and muchi build (need feedback) EmptySat May 19, 2012 12:16 pm

Yes.
But I don't understand what you mean by Winberrl.
If it's bind status (Winberrl BD), Clearance can remove it.
If it's drawgun (AM), then CV.


For further reading, try Sugu's guide to revenge tunes.

http://www.cosmicbreakfanforum.com/t8601-revenge-tunes-and-why-you-should-be-using-them


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PostSubject: Re: Aila and muchi build (need feedback)   Aila and muchi build (need feedback) EmptySat May 19, 2012 12:22 pm

yeah blead you are my love..

so i decide to go with cv now.. dat can protect draw gun..

rebuild!!

EDIT::

wait.. clearance activate when debuff effected only isn't it?

or activate when get stunned too.
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PostSubject: Re: Aila and muchi build (need feedback)   Aila and muchi build (need feedback) EmptySat May 19, 2012 12:25 pm

jaktree wrote:
yeah blead you are my love..

so i decide to go with cv now.. dat can protect draw gun..

rebuild!!

EDIT::

wait.. clearance activate when debuff effected only isn't it?

or activate when get stunned too.

All revenge tunes activate upon being stunned. Clearance gives protection from status effects, C.Veil gives immunity from stun, and Hypershot obviously gives Hypershot upon being stunned.
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PostSubject: Re: Aila and muchi build (need feedback)   Aila and muchi build (need feedback) EmptySat May 19, 2012 12:34 pm

oh trill i watch your build..

but it doesn't have blast guard . you get stun regain a stun regain instead.

is stun regain worth it? (since aila have a low amount of tgh.)
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PostSubject: Re: Aila and muchi build (need feedback)   Aila and muchi build (need feedback) EmptySat May 19, 2012 12:38 pm

did you know that muchi translates to ignorance
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PostSubject: Re: Aila and muchi build (need feedback)   Aila and muchi build (need feedback) EmptySat May 19, 2012 12:40 pm

.. i have mainly muchi now..

just got a new muchi . so want to make a build dat have blast bazooka.

ignorance what?

i don't know about lnds bot much (because i don't play land)

i'm an art player
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PostSubject: Re: Aila and muchi build (need feedback)   Aila and muchi build (need feedback) EmptySat May 19, 2012 12:45 pm

jaktree wrote:
.. i have mainly muchi now..

just got a new muchi . so want to make a build dat have blast bazooka.

ignorance what?

"muchi" can be translated from Japanese to mean "ignorance" in English. The Japanese kanji for "muchi" is 無知 .

also you'd probably be better off with hypershot
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PostSubject: Re: Aila and muchi build (need feedback)   Aila and muchi build (need feedback) EmptySat May 19, 2012 12:48 pm

oh sorry for that..

i think you mean my muchi builds is ignore this thread.( cuz i ask aila too much.)

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PostSubject: Re: Aila and muchi build (need feedback)   Aila and muchi build (need feedback) EmptySat May 19, 2012 1:02 pm

no i just wanted to put that out there it has nothing to do with the thread Laughing
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PostSubject: Re: Aila and muchi build (need feedback)   Aila and muchi build (need feedback) EmptySat May 19, 2012 1:17 pm

my muchi have 20 str-20 tec, with pumpzoka :p
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PostSubject: Re: Aila and muchi build (need feedback)   Aila and muchi build (need feedback) EmptySat May 19, 2012 5:57 pm

Eh? I thought all you need to play Aila is a right click button and a face to roll over it repeatedly #em3
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PostSubject: Re: Aila and muchi build (need feedback)   Aila and muchi build (need feedback) EmptySat May 19, 2012 6:01 pm

tehprognoob wrote:
Eh? I thought all you need to play Aila is a right click button and a face to roll over it repeatedly #em3
If she still has the "unstunnable during melee" thing that Eris has, more or less #em3

I should see if I can borrow an Aila and check up on that...
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PostSubject: Re: Aila and muchi build (need feedback)   Aila and muchi build (need feedback) EmptySat May 19, 2012 8:57 pm


rebuild aila v2

get capa tune (i have composite capa yeah!)
2 cv and reduce to orange-tier to get more str

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but CV is it good ? to fought a some zero bots in current meta.

if cv activate. but got a shock from blade that you can't attack or other what..

so.. i think clearance is better ..
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PostSubject: Re: Aila and muchi build (need feedback)   Aila and muchi build (need feedback) EmptySat May 19, 2012 9:02 pm

even if you have clearance you'd be too busy getting stunlocked to do anything

with cv you can just wait out the shock and melt face (believe me cv is amazing)
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PostSubject: Re: Aila and muchi build (need feedback)   Aila and muchi build (need feedback) EmptySat May 19, 2012 9:03 pm

If you get cursed/shocked, you'd probably be better off running away. The whole goal is to use C.veil to keep them stunlocked and unable to ever curse you.


edit:@malphes: aila doesnt have the hp to just wait out the combo. You'd just use it to actually get out of the combo, then attack from the back or something
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PostSubject: Re: Aila and muchi build (need feedback)   Aila and muchi build (need feedback) EmptySat May 19, 2012 9:42 pm

milfes got a fresh account?
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PostSubject: Re: Aila and muchi build (need feedback)   Aila and muchi build (need feedback) EmptySun May 20, 2012 7:53 am

Trill wrote:
If you get cursed/shocked, you'd probably be better off running away. The whole goal is to use C.veil to keep them stunlocked and unable to ever curse you.


edit:@malphes: aila doesnt have the hp to just wait out the combo. You'd just use it to actually get out of the combo, then attack from the back or something

mine propably could do that actually, considering shes sporting 500/600 health at moderate toughness
but i doubt that i would do that anyways >.>
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PostSubject: Re: Aila and muchi build (need feedback)   Aila and muchi build (need feedback) EmptySun May 20, 2012 8:59 am

Imo Aila should avoid contact with other melee user. I'd use her broad radar to freeze off some lonely ARTs and SUPs.
(Yeah I just wrote that <3).
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