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PostSubject: Toybox BAZ   Toybox BAZ EmptyThu Nov 03, 2011 8:36 pm

Aside from me knowing that I was going to end up getting him from weekly

What should I do with him?
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PostSubject: Re: Toybox BAZ   Toybox BAZ EmptyThu Nov 03, 2011 9:27 pm

Get both EIW.
Get more fly, get more tec, shoot everything on sight?

Man, do want BAZ. D;

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Fat, but fast! XDDD
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PostSubject: Re: Toybox BAZ   Toybox BAZ EmptyThu Nov 03, 2011 9:29 pm

@God is a Cat Girl wrote:
Get both EIW.
Get more fly, get more tec, shoot everything on sight?

Man, do want BAZ. D;

Spoiler:
 

Fat, but fast! XDDD
>Toybox baz
>Fly
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PostSubject: Re: Toybox BAZ   Toybox BAZ EmptyThu Nov 03, 2011 9:41 pm

@xzpwnz wrote:
@God is a Cat Girl wrote:
Get both EIW.
Get more fly, get more tec, shoot everything on sight?

Man, do want BAZ. D;

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Fat, but fast! XDDD
>Toybox baz
>Fly

The only time that I saw one doing well on the arena, happened to have fly. The wlk ones... Never saw them doing anything else besides being slaughtered. The only one that wasn't slaughtered happened to have 7 bots around it. Even though, yes, the gatling part does invite for wlk.
Now even with a small bot, 37 wlk and 400 range isn't as easy when you have to aim, and the air attacking you has a 300 range homing blaster, taking damage isn't that hard.
But for some reason, flying to the top of something, spam missiles and shot zook shells if they get close seems to work quite well on some maps. As long as they aren't flat.

(Maybe boost run, but I don't like it that much unless on melee)

BUT THEN AGAIN (not here though), it took me 2 minutes to put that up, and I don't even have the bot to see how the gatling feels like. Care to fund me one? Razz
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PostSubject: Re: Toybox BAZ   Toybox BAZ EmptyThu Nov 03, 2011 9:48 pm

I have a 34 fly toybox that is somewhat decent, but I do think he might do better walkbased. I just basically get up on a ledge and spam grandum, using my Bazooka to fend off airs that try to target me. It suffers from boost issues due to its lack of Quick Boost though #em5
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PostSubject: Re: Toybox BAZ   Toybox BAZ EmptyThu Nov 03, 2011 10:00 pm

I should've stopped reading when I saw dango
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PostSubject: Re: Toybox BAZ   Toybox BAZ EmptyThu Nov 03, 2011 10:08 pm

Because going to dango when I didn't give a s*** about clans, is an infectious disease.
Maybe in the next life I will be an ant! Very Happy

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@Trill wrote:
I have a 34 fly toybox that is somewhat decent, but I do think he might do better walkbased. I just basically get up on a ledge and spam grandum, using my Bazooka to fend off airs that try to target me. It suffers from boost issues due to its lack of Quick Boost though #em5

Only 2 bots have Quick Boost and are capable of using Grandum BS, and 1 of them already has a missile subweapon.

Then there's smaller stuff, but none have internal subweapon missiles and what you can equip on them isn't as good?
So, there's not much of choice. Destructor is awesome with 34 Fly and there's no Quick Boost.
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But in this case, the internal weapon seems to work better with wlk. This is, from an outside POV and without any testing.



Maybe a long range weapon like a Railgun (whichever you prefer) to shoot at long range and Internal when they are finally close enough? (now I really want a Blast zooka. D;)
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PostSubject: Re: Toybox BAZ   Toybox BAZ EmptyFri Nov 04, 2011 11:36 am

@xzpwnz wrote:
@God is a Cat Girl wrote:
Get both EIW.
Get more fly, get more tec, shoot everything on sight?

Man, do want BAZ. D;

Spoiler:
 

Fat, but fast! XDDD
>Toybox baz
>Fly
QFT
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PostSubject: Re: Toybox BAZ   Toybox BAZ EmptyFri Nov 04, 2011 12:10 pm

EQUIP TWO GATTLING BAZOOKAS.

ALPHA STRIKE.

BOOM BOOM BOOM BOOM BOOM.
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PostSubject: Re: Toybox BAZ   Toybox BAZ EmptyFri Nov 04, 2011 2:55 pm

@God is a Cat Girl wrote:
Because going to dango when I didn't give a s*** about clans, is an infectious disease.
Maybe in the next life I will be an ant! Very Happy

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Your sense of builds are the same
You don't need to be born knowing it all here, just know not to give build advice when you yourself need it
Aegis wrote:
EQUIP TWO GATTLING BAZOOKAS.

ALPHA STRIKE.

BOOM BOOM BOOM BOOM BOOM.
Lolkira #em3
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PostSubject: Re: Toybox BAZ   Toybox BAZ EmptyFri Nov 04, 2011 6:45 pm

@xzpwnz wrote:
@God is a Cat Girl wrote:
Because going to dango when I didn't give a s*** about clans, is an infectious disease.
Maybe in the next life I will be an ant! Very Happy

CBEn: Born knowing it all or GTFO.
Your sense of builds are the same
You don't need to be born knowing it all here, just know not to give build advice when you yourself need it
Aegis wrote:
EQUIP TWO GATTLING BAZOOKAS.

ALPHA STRIKE.

BOOM BOOM BOOM BOOM BOOM.
Lolkira #em3
And when did I gave any advice?
Aren't you just putting "words in my mouth"?
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PostSubject: Re: Toybox BAZ   Toybox BAZ EmptyFri Nov 04, 2011 6:53 pm

You're kidding, right? Laughing
You're putting words in your own mouth
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PostSubject: Re: Toybox BAZ   Toybox BAZ EmptyFri Nov 04, 2011 7:12 pm

@God is a Cat Girl wrote:

?

Or discussing isn't also allowed in here?


Do-not-try-anything-else-or-discuss-and-close & flatterer the mods: The Forum.
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PostSubject: Re: Toybox BAZ   Toybox BAZ EmptyFri Nov 04, 2011 7:31 pm

The fact the forum is a circle jerk that hates any attempt to do something new (even for novelty/ fun) aside, walk is better if you want to use the core as a main gun of choice.
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PostSubject: Re: Toybox BAZ   Toybox BAZ EmptyFri Nov 04, 2011 7:47 pm

Aegis wrote:
EQUIP TWO GATTLING BAZOOKAS.

ALPHA STRIKE.

BOOM BOOM BOOM BOOM BOOM.

Cosmic Calc sez you can
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but kinda smell free frag with that 9 wlk 1 fly hahaha
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PostSubject: Re: Toybox BAZ   Toybox BAZ EmptyFri Nov 04, 2011 8:22 pm

@Intet wrote:
The fact the forum is a circle jerk that hates any attempt to do something new (even for novelty/ fun) aside, walk is better if you want to use the core as a main gun of choice.
Well said, my friend.


Anywho, regarding the FLY vs. WLK argument, I think it's about how the BD weapon aims. If the BD weapon aims something like Jack Gadget BD, then it should FLY. If it aims something like Kaiser BD2, then it should WLK.
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PostSubject: Re: Toybox BAZ   Toybox BAZ EmptyFri Nov 04, 2011 8:28 pm

@Intet wrote:
The fact the forum is a circle jerk that hates any attempt to do something new (even for novelty/ fun) aside, walk is better if you want to use the core as a main gun of choice.
Lol
Ask op if he wants a build that does well or a build that's fun
(Or both in some cases)
If you use a build from me, expect it to do well, whether it's fun or not is up to you to decide


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PostSubject: Re: Toybox BAZ   Toybox BAZ EmptyFri Nov 04, 2011 8:31 pm

imo, most of the time doing well would = fun

unless it's something like an alphag where all you do is apply tension to two fingers to win
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PostSubject: Re: Toybox BAZ   Toybox BAZ EmptyFri Nov 04, 2011 11:37 pm

A high fly Toybox BAZ with a Linear Rifle would work well in experienced hands.
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PostSubject: Re: Toybox BAZ   Toybox BAZ EmptyFri Nov 04, 2011 11:40 pm

Well, Im just trying to build something else since Im kind of done building my Genbura, and I feel like working with another Art. Maybe Toybox BAZ isn't the BEST BD, but I want to pull something out of it.

@Shaftronics wrote:
A high fly Toybox BAZ with a Linear Rifle would work well in experienced hands.

Im doing something like that but using regular Toybox, works well.
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PostSubject: Re: Toybox BAZ   Toybox BAZ EmptySat Nov 05, 2011 1:46 am

@RenExceed wrote:
Well, Im just trying to build something else since Im kind of done building my Genbura, and I feel like working with another Art. Maybe Toybox BAZ isn't the BEST BD, but I want to pull something out of it.

@Shaftronics wrote:
A high fly Toybox BAZ with a Linear Rifle would work well in experienced hands.

Im doing something like that but using regular Toybox, works well.

I think that it depends on the type of art that you want.

Toybox seems to be one of the good bots to be used with Grandum BS (which I haven't tested much, but seems to be good if used right, but hard to survive with Vectors and AGs now), but Toybox already has a subweapon, so I didn't felt like having 2 different subweapons. I looked at other bots, but I don't like the other bots enough to use Grandum BS (I don't like Destructor CN main weapon and I haven't got King Gigaton since I don't feel like buying it just to test. D;).
But BAZ seems to be a fine bot for that. Main weapon seems nice, plenty of capa and easy to get high tec without tunes.

But the main weapon seems to work good with wlk, and you can spam the hell out of it. And it seems that BAZ actually moves the torso (on the videos it looked like the torso) when it lock on someone?

I guess that it all goes down to what you want to do with it. Spam main weapon or something else.
Or if you like the bot enough, tune parts for more than 1 purpose. XDDDD
Wlk tuned parts for flat maps and Fly tuned parts for maps with lots of hills/cliffs and to spam Grandum BS? (Canyon Coast for example. It's easier to hit airs with missiles when you are on the middle of the map because they have to fly close to the ground.)
Maybe the carts would be a problem. Maybe not.


I see many people using Boost Run on ground based arts, though I dislike it because of the aiming.
I have 37 wlk arts, it's not bad, but if you don't see the enemy soon enough or if you are alone in the middle of nowhere (actually you don't need to be that far, there's lots of people that ignore the fact that their team mates are being attacked, even if they are on a place where the melee can't touch them), you might be done for. But there's also those fat and slow lnds that can't catch up, which is pretty funny.

One thing that I see and don't like about BAZ being tuned for wlk is that it doesn't have short boost. So if there's an obstacle, it will slow you down quite a bit. But you will be fine on more flat maps.

Well, not all bots are good on all maps.



Note: Well, I'm just posting this and some assumptions because I'm also interested in this, and I see no problem in discussing. The more food for thought the better?
Well, if the OP doesn't want it, I can go clean my mess then. Just say it.
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PostSubject: Re: Toybox BAZ   Toybox BAZ EmptyFri Nov 11, 2011 3:33 am

Reskin it like this, AFK in wis/brd/dos area, enjoy comments every 5 seconds.
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Other than that, yeah, it's kinda shit.
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