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fggt Flat chests are JUSTICE!
Posts : 5770 Join date : 2011-02-03 Age : 32 Location : A certain boss's room
| Subject: Re: Ivis vs mbg vs elisalotte Sun Jun 19, 2011 9:54 am | |
| Ivis has more HP, and if i'm correct, CV disable tgh reduce, at least my friend said so. | |
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knyx Grand Poster
Posts : 3028 Join date : 2010-07-11 Age : 911
| Subject: Re: Ivis vs mbg vs elisalotte Sun Jun 19, 2011 9:55 am | |
| - tggt wrote:
- Ivis has more HP, and if i'm correct, CV disable tgh reduce, at least my friend said so.
Nope, TGH reduces damage correctly. It's just that her TGH sucks. MBG can tank most L-sized bots but a BBFF could take down most Ivis/Elisas. (Shade's waifu beater) | |
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fggt Flat chests are JUSTICE!
Posts : 5770 Join date : 2011-02-03 Age : 32 Location : A certain boss's room
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ngelicdark Adept Poster
Posts : 936 Join date : 2011-04-04 Age : 33
| Subject: Re: Ivis vs mbg vs elisalotte Sun Jun 19, 2011 3:43 pm | |
| - tggt wrote:
- tggt wrote:
40 tgh byne with 500+HP shield will have fun with all of them This be true. I tend to ignore the shielded/high TGH LNDs until they've been whittled down a lot. If the target isn't stunned, you pay for that mistake a LOT. Also, I think Ivis > MBG > Elisa be so (simplified of course). Although MBG is much easier to get a high melee score than Ivis because she's so much tankier. MBG can raid the PS once or twice, then come back once more for suicide death (after a good heal of course). Ivis really can't live long, she has 418 HP max w/o tunes, and only 7 TGH. Under heavy fire, I can't last more than a few seconds -_- She has to pick on solo targets, and even with a heal, she can't keep doing the same job over and over again. Lack of veils, buckler, good OH SHIT I SHOULD NOT BE HERE items, even lack of good targets (sometimes AIRs have BOTH back alley ways covered ). The only new thing I can kinda add is that Ivis takes a bit of manuevering with when it comes to combos. I don't know if it's cuz I frame lag a bit when I play with her, but the first hit of her combo is a little...weird. You'll sometimes skid past your target even though it looks like the crimson slash hits the target, but you don't hit. And a lot of the times, the aiming of that rapier is stupid. Even if there's only one target; the one you're hitting towards, Ivis sometimes randomly decides to start poking behind her.. or at a tree that's further away than your target.... Gets much more frustrating when you're about to land a kill for last attacker, and it comes down to the wire.. One more hit and your target woulda been dead...but Ivis thought it would be cooler to hit the other target sidling up behind you... Really dumb when that happens... Oh and also, I think MBG can fare better with aerial targets much more than Ivis. With Ivis, you need short boost, lance bits maybe, and skill -_- Hitting them low flying airs can be a pain in the butt when they're just that *bit* too far with the short boost ._. But I've had some moments where some silly peeps thought hovering twice my height over me was high enough...and they were wrong | |
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ywxiao Newbie
Posts : 67 Join date : 2011-01-29
| Subject: Re: Ivis vs mbg vs elisalotte Sun Jun 19, 2011 3:52 pm | |
| - tggt wrote:
- ywxiao wrote:
- If we are talking about 1 v 1 then Ivis is the best of the 3, but in terms of real game play I personally prefer MBG.
Fully tuned she has great damage(71 damage per punch) and is the most tanky of the 3. There is also a trick that allows you to purge armor without actually purging the armor, which makes MBG even more tanky. Force of MBG and Ivis is same, ivis can do 7 combo while mbg can do 3.
And abt the trick, i can do it only at haku Q and float panel map, via auto teleport. Note I said great damage in real game play(not necessarily the best), but the focus is how hard to kill MBG is, that melee messes up the aiming of a lot of weapons. The trick is replicable, I found it while using EVE, there were times when I did the activate motion but my cannon would not appear, so I was stuck using psygun for the entire game(some of you are saying "oh I remember having the same problem"). I just thought maybe this would work in my favor for MBG, and sure enough it did. | |
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Nisa God Poster
Posts : 7152 Join date : 2010-12-29 Age : 27
| Subject: Re: Ivis vs mbg vs elisalotte Sun Jun 19, 2011 4:39 pm | |
| *semi-related*
How 2 Counter Ivis with (overdrived) fencer?
hit,(even with crimson veil),run further,(hit again,abusing range)
rinse and repeat till ivis is gone
it's nice to hit a target that doesnt fly far far away from the strikes :O | |
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Trill Grand Poster
Posts : 3071 Join date : 2011-02-26 Age : 912
| Subject: Re: Ivis vs mbg vs elisalotte Sun Jun 19, 2011 5:06 pm | |
| If an Ivis doesn't make you her hoe soon as you come close, she's doing it wrong. The delay afterwards and duration of the swing would give her plenty of time to waltz up and impale you on her rapier. | |
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Suguri God Poster
Posts : 7765 Join date : 2011-01-07 Age : 25 Location : Japan
| Subject: Re: Ivis vs mbg vs elisalotte Sun Jun 19, 2011 7:18 pm | |
| - Nisa wrote:
- *semi-related*
How 2 Counter Ivis with (overdrived) fencer?
hit,(even with crimson veil),run further,(hit again,abusing range)
rinse and repeat till ivis is gone
it's nice to hit a target that doesnt fly far far away from the strikes :O If you're playing the World's Shittiest Ivis. | |
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knyx Grand Poster
Posts : 3028 Join date : 2010-07-11 Age : 911
| Subject: Re: Ivis vs mbg vs elisalotte Sun Jun 19, 2011 7:32 pm | |
| Ivis just stunlocks VF and its all over. I just had a few 1v1s with a VF user (who isn't bad, mind you), which got a +200 HP head start from a sneak attack from the back, still managed to make it an easy frag due to, lol, unlimited stun works. | |
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boytitan2 Fishell
Posts : 8639 Join date : 2010-12-23 Age : 31 Location : Buffalo NewYork
| Subject: Re: Ivis vs mbg vs elisalotte Mon Jun 20, 2011 1:33 am | |
| 2 shit tier bots vs mbg
Winer is might byne girl obviously that range small hit box and shields. | |
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Kecepirit Regular Poster
Posts : 223 Join date : 2010-12-07
| Subject: Re: Ivis vs mbg vs elisalotte Mon Jun 20, 2011 1:38 am | |
| actually, that dashing attack that incurs massive jittering with latency, confirming 2nd hit even before 1st hit registers, gg. Jikun Reloaded. | |
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Trill Grand Poster
Posts : 3071 Join date : 2011-02-26 Age : 912
| Subject: Re: Ivis vs mbg vs elisalotte Mon Jun 20, 2011 1:42 am | |
| Honestly unless MBG is fighting a weakened Ivis, Ivis will stomp on her. Ivis can interrupt MBG's combo immediately because of lack of stun. Fighting unpurged could work, although having only 1 hit on your combo derps things up. Elisa should probably be unincluded from the thread simply because she honestly has nothing going for her besides being able to use Lightning Edge.
I have a MBG and have been mauled in a melée fight verses an Ivis. I got two punches in before she combo'd me. If MBG packs a gun, she could probably win though even if Ivis brought one too. | |
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boytitan2 Fishell
Posts : 8639 Join date : 2010-12-23 Age : 31 Location : Buffalo NewYork
| Subject: Re: Ivis vs mbg vs elisalotte Mon Jun 20, 2011 1:55 am | |
| - Trill wrote:
- Honestly unless MBG is fighting a weakened Ivis, Ivis will stomp on her. Ivis can interrupt MBG's combo immediately because of lack of stun.
wrong its not the fact that mbg can stun its that her combo has lots of range and is fast it takes a while for my vangaurd to kill byne girls ivis would get raped buy em. There like a upgraded jikun or like hatigarm machine its the facts that the melee u get out the way and melee u again that makes em deadly they dont need stunlock | |
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ywxiao Newbie
Posts : 67 Join date : 2011-01-29
| Subject: Re: Ivis vs mbg vs elisalotte Mon Jun 20, 2011 2:01 am | |
| Now that I think about it, wouldn't Elisa beat both of them with lightning edge? | |
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Suguri God Poster
Posts : 7765 Join date : 2011-01-07 Age : 25 Location : Japan
| Subject: Re: Ivis vs mbg vs elisalotte Mon Jun 20, 2011 2:37 am | |
| - ywxiao wrote:
- Now that I think about it, wouldn't Elisa beat both of them with lightning edge?
Lightning Edge doesn't shock until the last hit. MBG and Ivis would both have her stunned by then, unless the MBG was purged without bucklers. | |
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Guest Guest
| Subject: Re: Ivis vs mbg vs elisalotte Mon Jun 20, 2011 2:55 am | |
| This is a fact. Mighty Byne Girl >>> Most Large Sized Land Melee Bots.
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