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DeathTeddy Newcomer
Posts : 18 Join date : 2011-03-21 Location : In a galaxy far away...
| Subject: Blazed Baron FF Fri Jun 10, 2011 4:21 pm | |
| What should I put on him? | |
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Nisa God Poster
Posts : 7152 Join date : 2010-12-29 Age : 27
| Subject: Re: Blazed Baron FF Fri Jun 10, 2011 4:26 pm | |
| Keep the sword,it's good.
swap the other parts,I don't really use my baron,I'm leaving it to suguri.
Also,Anti-Burning is a MUST. | |
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Suguri God Poster
Posts : 7765 Join date : 2011-01-07 Age : 25 Location : Japan
| Subject: Re: Blazed Baron FF Fri Jun 10, 2011 4:29 pm | |
| I do viper + 8-vulcan/bazooka on baron, but I hear the new melee arm's good, so melee baron may be worthwhile.
Anti-burning + quick boost is a must, because baron's movement is almost completely reliant on flying while burning. Short boost (and quick land?) could also be useful.
Since burning locks you at ~20 wlk + shaden-speed fly, you can say screw it to your movement stats (maybe keep some wlk for moving when not burning) and pour everything in offensive stats + tgh. | |
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Nisa God Poster
Posts : 7152 Join date : 2010-12-29 Age : 27
| Subject: Re: Blazed Baron FF Fri Jun 10, 2011 4:44 pm | |
| - Suguri wrote:
- I do viper + 8-vulcan/bazooka on baron, but I hear the new melee arm's good, so melee baron may be worthwhile.
Anti-burning + quick boost is a must, because baron's movement is almost completely reliant on flying while burning. Short boost (and quick land?) could also be useful.
Since burning locks you at ~20 wlk + shaden-speed fly, you can say screw it to your movement stats (maybe keep some wlk for moving when not burning) and pour everything in offensive stats + tgh. Damn good it is. My dae and fencer have been roasted,stunlocked and pwnt with 140 dmg per slash D: (or combo) great slash arc too | |
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Guest Guest
| Subject: Re: Blazed Baron FF Fri Jun 10, 2011 4:46 pm | |
| Not sure about anti-burn. I see flames spew out of the sword when he's burning, does that add extra damage? |
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Suguri God Poster
Posts : 7765 Join date : 2011-01-07 Age : 25 Location : Japan
| Subject: Re: Blazed Baron FF Fri Jun 10, 2011 4:49 pm | |
| A. Anti-burn doesn't remove burning, it removes the adverse effects while keeping the awesome speed buffs. Any Blaze Baron not using Anti-Burn deserves to be junked and fed to Crim. B. Burning adds extra damage and range via flaming arc slashes (similar to Sacrifice), as well as causing Burn with each hit. With the new arm, igniting once causes the sword to stay permanently lit. | |
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Intet Adept Poster
Posts : 825 Join date : 2010-10-02
| Subject: Re: Blazed Baron FF Fri Jun 10, 2011 5:02 pm | |
| The sword has what appears to have a 50% or higher chance of burning a target, this is both good, and bad. The good is that for most people, the burning is only gonna make it easier to kill them. The bad news is that a few people might use it get away, and you can possibly cause scattering in a group.
Defiantly viable though as a melee, can melee just as well as fencer, with the bonus of being able to zip around at high speed. Take note that swinging the blade always cancels burning status on yourself. | |
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Nisa God Poster
Posts : 7152 Join date : 2010-12-29 Age : 27
| Subject: Re: Blazed Baron FF Fri Jun 10, 2011 5:05 pm | |
| - Intet wrote:
- The sword has what appears to have a 50% or higher chance of burning a target, this is both good, and bad. The good is that for most people, the burning is only gonna make it easier to kill them. The bad news is that a few people might use it get away, and you can possibly cause scattering in a group.
Defiantly viable though as a melee, can melee just as well as fencer, with the bonus of being able to zip around at high speed. Take note that swinging the blade always cancels burning status on yourself. Screws stuff up in caves. Also,the burning status disorientates less expierienced melee's but it may give that vanguard fencer shaden speed fly. | |
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DeathTeddy Newcomer
Posts : 18 Join date : 2011-03-21 Location : In a galaxy far away...
| Subject: Re: Blazed Baron FF Fri Jun 10, 2011 7:28 pm | |
| I don't think you need anti-burning because can't you just use the sword to absorb the burn? | |
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Guest Guest
| Subject: Re: Blazed Baron FF Fri Jun 10, 2011 7:30 pm | |
| - DeathTeddy wrote:
- I don't think you need anti-burning because can't you just use the sword to absorb the burn?
That's not what the anti-burn is for. |
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knyx Grand Poster
Posts : 3028 Join date : 2010-07-11 Age : 911
| Subject: Re: Blazed Baron FF Fri Jun 10, 2011 8:09 pm | |
| Like scaregant's knife and bomb, except more powerful and burns like a bitch. | |
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Guest Guest
| Subject: Re: Blazed Baron FF Fri Jun 10, 2011 8:28 pm | |
| The 2nd slash is really 360 degree spin. It hits even behind you. |
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knyx Grand Poster
Posts : 3028 Join date : 2010-07-11 Age : 911
| Subject: Re: Blazed Baron FF Fri Jun 10, 2011 8:45 pm | |
| Blaze baron AM5= new Spike build material?
Though his core has really crappy stats. I heard his BD2 has better but when I checked cosmicalc it sucks even more.
Needs major tuning mang. | |
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Priskern Ace Poster
Posts : 1142 Join date : 2011-02-13 Age : 39 Location : 大丈夫だ 問題ない 囧
| Subject: Re: Blazed Baron FF Fri Jun 10, 2011 9:17 pm | |
| It's really good from what I had seen (and also....at the receving end too =.=), sadly done around 15 rolls in total, only gotten 2 mech which is shaden and the new sigma clock. Well at least both has it's use.
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ngelicdark Adept Poster
Posts : 936 Join date : 2011-04-04 Age : 33
| Subject: Re: Blazed Baron FF Fri Jun 10, 2011 9:37 pm | |
| I really want baron from this gara D: I know I'll never get Ivis ;~;
I have an igneous sword in my backpack, and took a real fast glance at it; but is it made to remove flames or to get a new combo while on fire? o.O Cuz it could be used to combo with baron if so..
Also, I heard a clannie suggest the original Baron's Rod with the new AM. How does that sound? | |
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knyx Grand Poster
Posts : 3028 Join date : 2010-07-11 Age : 911
| Subject: Re: Blazed Baron FF Fri Jun 10, 2011 9:43 pm | |
| Nah 2 baron swords for twice the explosions, slashes, burn effects and graphics card-eating particles generated. | |
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DeathTeddy Newcomer
Posts : 18 Join date : 2011-03-21 Location : In a galaxy far away...
| Subject: Re: Blazed Baron FF Sat Jun 11, 2011 7:16 am | |
| This is my current build
【Robot Name】 Blazed Baron
【Parts】 BD: Blazed Baron BD WB: Dual Slayer Bit LG: Blazed Baron LG HD: Blazed Baron HD HDAC: Chinese Twintail FCAC: Night Supervisor BS: Prop BSJ BS: Blazed Baron BS AM: Blazed Baron AM5 [Great Power] WP: - AM: Lancerlot AM [Great Supply]
【Config Check】 COST: OK BS: OK LG: OK
【Stats】 TYPE: 陸 SIZE: L COST: 1200 CAPA: 1200 HP: 517 STR: 26 TEC: 11 WLK: 24 FLY: 10 TGH: 13
LEVEL: 3
【Cartridges】 Capacity +60×2 Sword Guard
【必要素材】 Midoro Cosmos×1 Threede Cosmos×1 Power Amp×21 Strike Metal×15 Drum Magazine×13 Shock Graphite×15 Prism Glass×15 Acid Gel×15
Probably shouldn't have tuned lance for ammo | |
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ngelicdark Adept Poster
Posts : 936 Join date : 2011-04-04 Age : 33
| Subject: Re: Blazed Baron FF Sat Jun 11, 2011 9:18 pm | |
| I'm actually much more disturbed by the fact BB is a L sized bot with the TGH comparable to a S sized one. I'm thinking of a bot build that probably emphasizes more on STR/TGH than WLK/FLY since he flies at 40 FLY on fire anyway.
Erm, why extra ammo and whatnot on parts? Shouldn't stats > those things? I feel other than great grappler on spiker melee bots, stats should be the cap eater.
I think you'll also get better results if you swapped out some parts. He's not locked at all o.O No need to keep the huge cost eating things. | |
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Rinrin Ace Poster
Posts : 1619 Join date : 2011-03-18 Location : Koko ni Iru Yo!
| Subject: Re: Blazed Baron FF Sun Jun 12, 2011 2:44 am | |
| - DeathTeddy wrote:
- This is my current build
【Robot Name】 Blazed Baron
【Parts】 BD: Blazed Baron BD WB: Dual Slayer Bit LG: Blazed Baron LG HD: Blazed Baron HD HDAC: Chinese Twintail FCAC: Night Supervisor BS: Prop BSJ BS: Blazed Baron BS AM: Blazed Baron AM5 [Great Power] WP: - AM: Lancerlot AM [Great Supply]
【Config Check】 COST: OK BS: OK LG: OK
【Stats】 TYPE: 陸 SIZE: L COST: 1200 CAPA: 1200 HP: 517 STR: 26 TEC: 11 WLK: 24 FLY: 10 TGH: 13
LEVEL: 3
【Cartridges】 Capacity +60×2 Sword Guard
【必要素材】 Midoro Cosmos×1 Threede Cosmos×1 Power Amp×21 Strike Metal×15 Drum Magazine×13 Shock Graphite×15 Prism Glass×15 Acid Gel×15
Probably shouldn't have tuned lance for ammo ditch that lancelot am, trust me. | |
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rehpic Regular Poster
Posts : 219 Join date : 2011-05-19 Age : 30
| Subject: Re: Blazed Baron FF Sun Jun 12, 2011 5:53 am | |
| my current build without tunes orz 【Robot Name】 Blazed Baron 【Parts】 BD: Blazed Baron BD WB: Dual Slayer Bit LG: Thoarla LG BS: Lancerlot BS HD: Sturbanger HD HDAC: Sunflower FCAC: Intelli Green BS: Lancerlot BS AM: Blazed Baron AM5 WP: - AM: Red Squealer AM WP: Viper Shield 【Config Check】 COST: OK BS: OK LG: OK 【Stats】 TYPE: 陸 SIZE: L COST: 1230 CAPA: 1310 HP: 514 STR: 20 TEC: 12 WLK: 19 FLY: 14 TGH: 23 LEVEL: 7 【Cartridges】 Capacity +60×4 Enhance internal weapon Anti Burning Quick Boost should i get another internal cart? i juggle between redsquealer arm and k-sword, but meh. i can't do stuff with all those ah-chan spammers flying around tried going into a tunnel, ended up being ambushed by a daedalian inside orz edit: also, his hp pool is 544. cosmic calc's red squealer arm lacks the +35 hp bonus also, the lancerlot am5 costs 120 on cosmic calc when in fact, it costs 180 D: | |
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ngelicdark Adept Poster
Posts : 936 Join date : 2011-04-04 Age : 33
| Subject: Re: Blazed Baron FF Sun Jun 12, 2011 9:07 pm | |
| IIRC when I saw Day test the BB in front of me, the awesome not on fire attack animation was the first hit; meaning you hafta hit with the BB sword first then have the last hit be RS pawnch (should be a two hit combo in my theory).
On fire is a different story. I believe the better hit is the second one, so it's best to use the pawnch first, and then follow up with the vertical slash from BB sword.
Looks better, but try to hit higher TGH/STR. The carts themselves look good. | |
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Fudge Newcomer
Posts : 9 Join date : 2010-11-11
| Subject: Re: Blazed Baron FF Mon Jun 13, 2011 8:20 am | |
| If I'm using two of his AMs (because theyre actually worth using both, lmfao), does it matter which I tune grappler onto? An indepth mechanics analysis of this would be helpful. | |
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Guest Guest
| Subject: Re: Blazed Baron FF Mon Jun 13, 2011 8:22 am | |
| - Fudge wrote:
- If I'm using two of his AMs (because theyre actually worth using both, lmfao), does it matter which I tune grappler onto? An indepth mechanics analysis of this would be helpful.
Only the grappler tuned one has increased damage. |
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ngelicdark Adept Poster
Posts : 936 Join date : 2011-04-04 Age : 33
| Subject: Re: Blazed Baron FF Mon Jun 13, 2011 1:19 pm | |
| You can even check cosmicalc when you plan it all out.
Tunes subweapon/weapon wise only affect the part/weap they're tuned to.
Also forget what I said cuz I tested mine and..it totally didn't work out well. RS punch is better used as the last hit in both cases. | |
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fggt Flat chests are JUSTICE!
Posts : 5770 Join date : 2011-02-03 Age : 32 Location : A certain boss's room
| Subject: Re: Blazed Baron FF Mon Jun 20, 2011 4:43 am | |
| - DeathTeddy wrote:
- This is my current build
【Robot Name】 Blazed Baron
【Parts】 BD: Blazed Baron BD WB: Dual Slayer Bit LG: Blazed Baron LG HD: Blazed Baron HD HDAC: Chinese Twintail FCAC: Night Supervisor BS: Prop BSJ BS: Blazed Baron BS AM: Blazed Baron AM5 [Great Power] WP: - AM: Lancerlot AM [Great Supply]
【Config Check】 COST: OK BS: OK LG: OK
【Stats】 TYPE: 陸 SIZE: L COST: 1200 CAPA: 1200 HP: 517 STR: 26 TEC: 11 WLK: 24 FLY: 10 TGH: 13
LEVEL: 3
【Cartridges】 Capacity +60×2 Sword Guard
【必要素材】 Midoro Cosmos×1 Threede Cosmos×1 Power Amp×21 Strike Metal×15 Drum Magazine×13 Shock Graphite×15 Prism Glass×15 Acid Gel×15
Probably shouldn't have tuned lance for ammo Again, why stat tune in wp?? ----------------------- Is anti burning necessary since tat slash will remove burning effect. And dual AM or RS AM, which better? Dual AM for stun lock and RS AM for 50% bonus dam. | |
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