Help build UC air bots pls

can some1 pls site any ideas or guides on how to build an affordable UC air bots
im still kinda new and im not using any UC atm, im saving it for a bot that is affordable even w/out RT
im still observing before i use real money in this game, well just playing safe lol
atm i got my eyes on helliginal and dikaros, but i was looking forward in helliginal but i think i cant change its parts
its like the default parts is the only ones to use, the arms got guns,(was it a beam?) but 12 force, was it a decent dmg to go with?
and helliginal amazes me in 21 fly, sum1 told me fly is how much speed u travel while flying
the only problem im concerned is that the default parts and how can i make its dmg go up, and the cartridges
i was palnning to go for stealth system, broad radar, quick boost, quick jump, and then all cost, or should i get some gurads like beam or sword guards? and im thinkiing bout quick land and float dash(for being agile)
and can i make this thing go like high def or sumthng? (my game play is like rounding enemies and hit and run thing, still learning though on how to use airs but i like its advantage on air)

and for dikaros, almost like helli but not much fly, and some, but i think i can gve it one weapon to give more dmg and i dunno know if i can change some of its part like lg(i hate its leg)
same as helli, im planning to get those cartridges if it got some of it, and i saw a thread which he did increase the fly(http://www.cosmicbreakfanforum.com/t3203-guideair-uc-bots) the guy with helliginal, from 21-30

pls help me decide what air bot is good, build, buns, cartridges thnx in advance

btw im not fond of using girls though i know the girl cybrgs here are really good

im planning to use RT if ever i do succeed on making a good air bot (ill buy another good RT airbot same as weaps and parts)

Okay we need the bigshots of the forum to answer this fully but I can give you a running start.

For the carts/stats bit, read my thread (it's in my sig). I give a basic idea on what carts you should take. I want you to start thinking about this as a whole instead of everyone just spoonfeeding you information on a specific bot. You need to be able to understand this game as a whole to be able to take advantage of everything you got, especially if you're gonna stay UC.

Helingal is all locked parts yes, but that's not why he's so awesome. He boasts high FLY, as you have seen, and his sub is amazing. Hook him up for now while he's still low on cap with a wide beam gun, and maybe a shield/mini zook and you're golden. Get used to hit and run with him because he's all about that. Oh yeah. And he turns into a copter.

I can't say much about Dikaros; I own him because I was looking for a specific weapon/AM but he turned out to not be it. So he's now junked in my garage. I've heard his core could be put to good use with the aforementioned weapon loadout though.

By the way since you like Helingal (you have your eye on him after all), if you ever go RT, wait for his big brother Air Raider. He turns into a jet plane, makes a great hit and run with a souped up version of Helingal's sub, and is a prime bod for alpha striker builds (builds where you hold both mouse buttons to shoot everything non-subweap). He sounds like your dream bot. He was last seen in the EVE gara btw. Not in the shop.

**EDIT

Also, beezle is a great bot too. She's all about low cost-higher dmg cost efficiency ratio. And she's quite annoying to hit on the battlefield to boot -_-

Generic guide to make any air sugoi.

Tune 38 fly. High Boost Beta should be your primary tuneup for this purpose.

Tune tec after. High/Great Tech Alpha should be your primary tuneup for this purpose.

Keep wlk at 1. Keep str at 1 too if you're going to use your wonderbit. If not, you can let it tank.

Use a Wide Beam Gun, Limited Plasma Gun, or Plasma Gun for dealing with land based bots.

Use a mini bazooka for air-to-air fights.

For wonderbits, sword, slayer, and propeller are the best practical choices. Dual Beam and Dual Laser work fine, too.

As far as UC air bots are concerned, these are the bots of interest, imo

Beezle

Sword Wing

Seraph Crimrose

Izuna Kamui Nagi

For parts, use parts that increase fly and tec. Parts that increase wlk (so you can tune for more fly) may also be necessary. Since you're playing UC, you'll want parts you can find in 2-3 slot variants. This includes (but isn't limited to):

Build Arm AM

Mach Knight AM

Tentrion AM

Ace Braver AM

Build Arm LG

Crimrose LG

Seraph LG

Paraboroid LG

Sword Wing BS

Beezle BS

Ace Braver BS

Dikaros HD

Mach Knight HD2

Suguri, mind if I yoink that post? It's way too good to let it go to waste.

thx for the reply
i was doing a hit and run and rounding enemies as my gameplay, atm i want to use UC just to observe and to practice or prefect building such air bots,
ill be going RT soon, and looking forward to what have said hellingal's counter part/brothers
if ever ill give it a zooks, guns or shield where could i be able to out it? can i put it with those hands of his?
btw abother favor to ask, what or how will i know how much longer a bot can fly? some bots just go out of charge in booster and go down
is there a way i can make the flying duration longer? for air bots



thnx for replies

Go for it, so long as you give credit where credit is due. :>

Suguri wrote:

Go for it, so long as you give credit where credit is due. :>

Dude, yknow I always give credit where it's due Don't make me laugh.

if ever ill give it a zooks, guns or shield where could i be able to out it? can i put it with those hands of his?

For all bots, you put additional weapons in their hands. Additional weapons can come from internal weapons already set in their particular part (be it a head, arm, booster, etc).

btw abother favor to ask, what or how will i know how much longer a bot can fly? some bots just go out of charge in booster and go down

Airs fly for 10 sec. No more, no less (unless you make it so). Other types stay in the air for 4 seconds. Some subs of certain bots can make the boost gauge replenish itself or stay "maxed" for a period of time ie. Crim Seraph or Aquila Girl. Propeller wonderbits also increase fly time but they take a while to charge.

is there a way i can make the flying duration longer? for air bots
Read above.

ngelicdark wrote:

Suguri wrote:

Go for it, so long as you give credit where credit is due. :>

Dude, yknow I always give credit where it's due Don't make me laugh.

if ever ill give it a zooks, guns or shield where could i be able to out it? can i put it with those hands of his?

For all bots, you put additional weapons in their hands. Additional weapons can come from internal weapons already set in their particular part (be it a head, arm, booster, etc).

btw abother favor to ask, what or how will i know how much longer a bot can fly? some bots just go out of charge in booster and go down

Airs fly for 10 sec. No more, no less (unless you make it so). Other types stay in the air for 4 seconds. Some subs of certain bots can make the boost gauge replenish itself or stay "maxed" for a period of time ie. Crim Seraph or Aquila Girl. Propeller wonderbits also increase fly time but they take a while to charge.

is there a way i can make the flying duration longer? for air bots
Read above.

Seraph wing flies 29-31-33 depending on upgrades, Shaden BS flies~40 seconds I think?

Edited out the parts you already answered

knyx wrote:

ngelicdark wrote:

Suguri wrote:

Go for it, so long as you give credit where credit is due. :>

Dude, yknow I always give credit where it's due Don't make me laugh.

if ever ill give it a zooks, guns or shield where could i be able to out it? can i put it with those hands of his?

For all bots, you put additional weapons in their hands. Additional weapons can come from internal weapons already set in their particular part (be it a head, arm, booster, etc).

btw abother favor to ask, what or how will i know how much longer a bot can fly? some bots just go out of charge in booster and go down

Airs fly for 10 sec. No more, no less (unless you make it so). Other types stay in the air for 4 seconds. Some subs of certain bots can make the boost gauge replenish itself or stay "maxed" for a period of time ie. Crim Seraph or Aquila Girl. Propeller wonderbits also increase fly time but they take a while to charge.

is there a way i can make the flying duration longer? for air bots
Read above.

Seraph wing flies 29-31-33 depending on upgrades, Shaden BS flies~40 seconds I think?

Edited out the parts you already answered

25-29-33 for wings, 40 for Shaden.

Shaden BS can be extended with prop bits, btw.

Suguri,our forum Wiki

also,Beezle.

hiya, ive bought dikaros and helingal, it does good
i just wanna ask if its ok if i give dikaros a shield?
does shiield here change sumthng? they say it got hp on its own but i cant see it in description
i break tcrimson ang get some parts of it for dikaros, it does well atm i thnk


what does shield can do some difference in arena? was it good at air bots?
or should i stick to dual main guns

wasd417 wrote:

hiya, ive bought dikaros and helingal, it does good
i just wanna ask if its ok if i give dikaros a shield?
does shiield here change sumthng? they say it got hp on its own but i cant see it in description
i break tcrimson ang get some parts of it for dikaros, it does well atm i thnk


what does shield can do some difference in arena? was it good at air bots?
or should i stick to dual main guns

Buckler and Viper shields both have 64hp if I recall. The only difference with them is the size and cost. Its okay to put a shield along with a beam weapon as it protects you from additional damage. Put a shield if you're not planning to use mini zook as the 2nd weap.

inzane14 wrote:

wasd417 wrote:

hiya, ive bought dikaros and helingal, it does good
i just wanna ask if its ok if i give dikaros a shield?
does shiield here change sumthng? they say it got hp on its own but i cant see it in description
i break tcrimson ang get some parts of it for dikaros, it does well atm i thnk


what does shield can do some difference in arena? was it good at air bots?
or should i stick to dual main guns

Buckler and Viper shields both have 64hp if I recall. The only difference with them is the size and cost. Its okay to put a shield along with a beam weapon as it protects you from additional damage. Put a shield if you're not planning to use mini zook as the 2nd weap.

Confirmed. They both have the same HP and almost the same coverage in terms of body area. However, buckler is smaller on cost, and that's the most important thing right now.

2 weapon loadouts are not needed, but I use them because it feels more versatile to have AKA more targets you can choose from. There are very few LNDs that you can catch up to nowadays (with a fresh bot) because most of them are tricked out, so if you have the sky to choose from too.. Well...

Also since you're probably gonna be like the 10% of the people in the room with only 20ish FLY, having a deterrent for those other AIRs is nice.

inzane14 wrote:

wasd417 wrote:

hiya, ive bought dikaros and helingal, it does good
i just wanna ask if its ok if i give dikaros a shield?
does shiield here change sumthng? they say it got hp on its own but i cant see it in description
i break tcrimson ang get some parts of it for dikaros, it does well atm i thnk


what does shield can do some difference in arena? was it good at air bots?
or should i stick to dual main guns

Buckler and Viper shields both have 64hp if I recall. The only difference with them is the size and cost. Its okay to put a shield along with a beam weapon as it protects you from additional damage. Put a shield if you're not planning to use mini zook as the 2nd weap.

Buckler and Viper have 70 HP. Byne armor has 64 HP.

Suguri wrote:

Generic guide to make any air sugoi.

Tune 38 fly. High Boost Beta should be your primary tuneup for this purpose.

Tune tec after. High/Great Tech Alpha should be your primary tuneup for this purpose.

Keep wlk at 1. Keep str at 1 too if you're going to use your wonderbit. If not, you can let it tank.

Use a Wide Beam Gun, Limited Plasma Gun, or Plasma Gun for dealing with land based bots.

Use a mini bazooka for air-to-air fights.

For wonderbits, sword, slayer, and propeller are the best practical choices. Dual Beam and Dual Laser work fine, too.

As far as UC air bots are concerned, these are the bots of interest, imo

Beezle

Sword Wing

Seraph Crimrose

Izuna Kamui Nagi

For parts, use parts that increase fly and tec. Parts that increase wlk (so you can tune for more fly) may also be necessary. Since you're playing UC, you'll want parts you can find in 2-3 slot variants. This includes (but isn't limited to):

Build Arm AM

Mach Knight AM

Tentrion AM

Ace Braver AM

Build Arm LG

Crimrose LG

Seraph LG

Paraboroid LG

Sword Wing BS

Beezle BS

Ace Braver BS

Dikaros HD

Mach Knight HD2

Basically this.
Weapon-wise, I would definitely go with the Wide Beam Gun + Mini Bazooka(total: 120 cost) loadout. I've found this to be the most effective of any AIR weapon load that I've tried. If you have the cost, Plasma/Limited Plasma Guns can be substituted but the projectile is smaller, which means you'll have to aim better. WBG is excellent as a consistent and reliable weapon. Mini Bazooka is a necessity for high damage output(a fresh minizooka has 23 Force) and Air-to-Air combat, although you can drop it for another weapon or a shield if you wish.
For tunes, I would tune the WBG for Speed(when choosing go for - Ammo, as WBG has a gigantic ammo pool), and tune Minizooka for Force, ammo, or whatever. I tuned mine for High Boost Beta to get rid of the -2 FLY.

No one mentioned UC L-airs yet D:

If you manage to get a Stardust Cannon (from bastagant quests), the only 2 UC bots you can use it on are Tengu and Big Mountainz.

Use Tengu if you want a low-cost, low level SDCer (low stats though)

Use Big Mountainz if you plan to make an SDCer with good stats (He has a rifle bit too!)

Easy hassle-free fast-assemble build:

Dikaros BD
Mach Knight AM x2
Dikaros LG
Dikaros HD
Sword Wing BS
Plasma Gun
Beam Gun
Slayer Bit

Use Beam to farm stuff and Plasma to kill stuff.

Not the greatest, but it does well enough until you get the mats/UC to build any of Suguri's sugoi builds.

Everyone giving out build advice is just pretending to be suguri

ziix wrote:

No one mentioned UC L-airs yet D:

If you manage to get a Stardust Cannon (from bastagant quests), the only 2 UC bots you can use it on are Tengu and Big Mountainz.

Use Tengu if you want a low-cost, low level SDCer (low stats though)

Use Big Mountainz if you plan to make an SDCer with good stats (He has a rifle bit too!)

Tengu BS for L or M Air setups, unless you want Izuna Kamui LG2 for Wisp attacks. If you can equip a second BS in addition to your LG + BS setup, I'd take both, but that's somewhat pricey in cost.
Tune until you get 35+ FLY, then pump all your TEC.
Viper Shield a possibility unless you're tight on cost.
Since Mini Bazooka is not possible, you have to use a good L or M AIR weapon to compensate for the lack of Air-to-Air combat. If you can't acquire Stardust Cannon, an Omega Blaster is a decent choice but has extremely high cost(200 cost, not very nice). There are others but I don't know em well.

Hyoka wrote:

Easy hassle-free fast-assemble build:

Dikaros BD
Mach Knight AM x2
Dikaros LG
Dikaros HD
Sword Wing BS
Plasma Gun
Beam Gun
Slayer Bit

Use Beam to farm stuff and Plasma to kill stuff.

Not the greatest, but it does well enough until you get the mats/UC to build any of Suguri's sugoi builds.

Dikaros BD's only nice stat is wlk, for tuning fly easily. It's beaten out by every other UC air with just a bit of build planning. Without tuning, he's just flat-out garbage.

He makes a good non tuned filler bot.

knyx wrote:

Everyone giving out build advice is just pretending to be suguri

Totally not true D: Although I do respect Suguri for spending so much of his time helping out other people. Makes my life a little easier too

But honestly I have nothing new to add except:

If you're looking for a RT L sized bot from shop, look no further than Aquila. He's pretty darn versatile and his LG allow for a second booster. There's another thread somewhere in general section with I think Lazer asking for some help on deciding what to spend on 55 RT.. You could look there for some more advice people were throwing in for him.

Anyhoo, I assume the OP's silence means that his questions are pretty much answered. So time to pack up.

ngelicdark wrote:

knyx wrote:

Everyone giving out build advice is just pretending to be suguri

Totally not true D: Although I do respect Suguri for spending so much of his time helping out other people. Makes my life a little easier too

But honestly I have nothing new to add except:

If you're looking for a RT L sized bot from shop, look no further than Aquila. He's pretty darn versatile and his LG allow for a second booster. There's another thread somewhere in general section with I think Lazer asking for some help on deciding what to spend on 55 RT.. You could look there for some more advice people were throwing in for him.

Anyhoo, I assume the OP's silence means that his questions are pretty much answered. So time to pack up.

Dat 2 core TGH, You may need to consider getting Thoarla's LG and BS since his LG and BS makes him the size of a barn. Plus Thoarla's LG/BS give a +3 TGH each, oh hell just go buy a Thoarla

Buy a Butterflea for an easy to assemble near 40 fly air that's low enough cost to be able to suck with and not get an extremely negative score. Would repost the link to it, but basically Suguri's build iirc is:

-2x Wing AMj
-2x Tentrion AM
-Dikaros HD
-Sword Wing BS
-Seraph LG/Izuna LG was it?
-2x Handy mag(just replace these with a High Boost tune to be able to put on better weapons)

Butterflea is Rt, so if you don't buy him, just stick this on any M or S sized Air for good results. Took 4 High Boost tunes on a friends setup to reach 40 fly on a Seraph.
As for cheap, good Uc airs, I'd say use Tesladonna, Izuna, or Sword Wing with that build above.