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Nerf Regular Poster
Posts : 201 Join date : 2011-02-03 Location : Nerf
| Subject: Best missile in game? Sun May 08, 2011 9:01 pm | |
| Thus far I've not seen anything better than Ganthima's AM. Mostly curious if there's better in cbjp in terms of range/spd/ai/shots fired before I go spend 200 rainbows on tuneups. | |
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xzpwnz Legendary Poster
Posts : 4686 Join date : 2010-06-05 Age : 110
| Subject: Re: Best missile in game? Sun May 08, 2011 9:23 pm | |
| Dugdriver ams > gathima ams | |
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Nerf Regular Poster
Posts : 201 Join date : 2011-02-03 Location : Nerf
| Subject: Re: Best missile in game? Mon May 09, 2011 12:12 pm | |
| I disagree >=| Lower damage, and i think lower range........and worst of all the dug dewds ams fire SLOWER! so... lower damage and longer int = HUGE DPS loss | |
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Shaftronics Adept Poster
Posts : 649 Join date : 2011-01-13 Age : 33 Location : Singapore
| Subject: Re: Best missile in game? Mon May 09, 2011 12:32 pm | |
| Someone wasn't playing attention to SPEED.
Which is literally the most important stat for Missile-based weapons. | |
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Intet Adept Poster
Posts : 825 Join date : 2010-10-02
| Subject: Re: Best missile in game? Mon May 09, 2011 12:39 pm | |
| With the exception of multi-missiles, which have some of the most crazy homing in the whole game, and go really slow. But everything else, you want it to go fast. | |
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Nerf Regular Poster
Posts : 201 Join date : 2011-02-03 Location : Nerf
| Subject: Re: Best missile in game? Mon May 09, 2011 2:18 pm | |
| H. Shooter exists for a reason <3 | |
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SmileBrush Regular Poster
Posts : 223 Join date : 2011-03-19 Age : 31 Location : Earth
| Subject: Re: Best missile in game? Mon May 09, 2011 2:28 pm | |
| - Altemus wrote:
- H. Shooter exists for a reason <3
H shooter is too high cost in my opinion. isnt it like 45 cost? id u have the capa to waste on such expensive tune, go for it. but id rather go and look for a missile that alrdy HAS speed. | |
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xzpwnz Legendary Poster
Posts : 4686 Join date : 2010-06-05 Age : 110
| Subject: Re: Best missile in game? Mon May 09, 2011 2:31 pm | |
| - SmileBrush wrote:
- Altemus wrote:
- H. Shooter exists for a reason <3
H shooter is too high cost in my opinion. isnt it like 45 cost? id u have the capa to waste on such expensive tune, go for it. but id rather go and look for a missile that alrdy HAS speed. Right, only a newbie lady would tune high shooter | |
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Suguri God Poster
Posts : 7765 Join date : 2011-01-07 Age : 26 Location : Japan
| Subject: Re: Best missile in game? Mon May 09, 2011 3:52 pm | |
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boytitan2 Fishell
Posts : 8639 Join date : 2010-12-23 Age : 32 Location : Buffalo NewYork
| Subject: Re: Best missile in game? Mon May 09, 2011 4:27 pm | |
| - xzpwnz wrote:
- Dugdriver ams > gathima ams
I keep hearing that but how my tune gathima ams for speed and range have over 350 range and like 280 speed second would be tune toybox ams and tune ramject launcers for speed and range all of em go great on amateus also thing thats good with gathima ams is I can miss but that second missle always hits =) edit hold on let me get my missles stats to brag more again until proven otherwise theese are the best missles they hit fast they hit and each missle alone does 60 dmg to air I have hit a 100 dmg to airs easily also gathima ams dug driver cause If I miss that one missle that goes in the air hit later for 60 dmg and hardly misses that thing is hacks
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FireKiller87 Ace Poster
Posts : 1708 Join date : 2011-03-08 Location : Blowing FC Seraph out of my airspace
| Subject: Re: Best missile in game? Mon May 09, 2011 4:30 pm | |
| Grandum BS. MultiMissile-type weapon with decent speed, good force, etc etc. Nice if you're going for a UC option. The other promient UC options suffer from low ammo, force and range(Misside AM) or reeeeeeally slow speed and make your bot taller and fatter(Missile Barrel LGJ), or REALLY LOW ammo, crappy homing and height constraints(Howitzer AMJ). | |
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knyx Grand Poster
Posts : 3028 Join date : 2010-07-11 Age : 912
| Subject: Re: Best missile in game? Mon May 09, 2011 7:22 pm | |
| Loco X missiles pre-nerf. | |
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Nerf Regular Poster
Posts : 201 Join date : 2011-02-03 Location : Nerf
| Subject: Re: Best missile in game? Mon May 09, 2011 9:03 pm | |
| Two ganthima ams with 3x h.shooter equates to roughly 550+ cap (forgot the exact number) -- most bots have a max cap of 500-670 before parts/carts but the spd and range on ganthima's after 3x h.shooter is pretty fuckin disgusting, especially when its 2x shot @ 23 F* A slower firing internal really bum-fucks you, and lower damage x2 shots? Do you know how much potential damage is lost? My final point to the argument; Tec won't give you as much benefit as it will to -not miss- with those missiles. Hypothetically one would only need 2x H.shooter per am as they, on their own butt-rape. BUTT RAPE Btw BT you have really goofy assed tunes and builds. | |
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boytitan2 Fishell
Posts : 8639 Join date : 2010-12-23 Age : 32 Location : Buffalo NewYork
| Subject: Re: Best missile in game? Mon May 09, 2011 9:05 pm | |
| - Altemus wrote:
- Two ganthima ams with 3x h.shooter equates to roughly 550+ cap (forgot the exact number) -- most bots have a max cap of 500-670 before parts/carts but the spd and range on ganthima's after 3x h.shooter is pretty fuckin disgusting, especially when its 2x shot @ 23 F*
A slower firing internal really bum-fucks you, and lower damage x2 shots? Do you know how much potential damage is lost?
My final point to the argument; Tec won't give you as much benefit as it will to -not miss- with those missiles. Hypothetically one would only need 2x H.shooter per am as they, on their own butt-rape.
BUTT RAPE
Btw BT you have really goofy assed tunes and builds. thats cause my builds are made for my and my play stle only =P my ameteus only joob is to rape airs and keep othe rarts backw tih there superior range + dps | |
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Priskern Ace Poster
Posts : 1142 Join date : 2011-02-13 Age : 39 Location : 大丈夫だ 問題ない 囧
| Subject: Re: Best missile in game? Mon May 09, 2011 9:09 pm | |
| - knyx wrote:
- Loco X missiles pre-nerf.
NO! Snailbot's multi missile pre-nerf! | |
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Courius Betrayed Abbey
Posts : 935 Join date : 2010-10-27 Age : 48 Location : Somewhere flying
| Subject: Re: Best missile in game? Mon May 09, 2011 11:52 pm | |
| in my opinion
best missile for me is Howitzer ... either from Gathima Build-In or Howitzer AMJ (upgraded gathima howtizer better of course)
Pros : has Wide Turn Flight (almost 90 degree up down left right) very long range detection / chasing target (400 Range AMJ , 360 Gathima... imagine with blue circle) pretty fast reload (under powerspot / yellow circle you almost literaly volley this)
Cons: Size L , ART only (if AMJ) Pretty Slow Flight compared other missiles (still, combined with long range bit or blue circle make it deadly fast) Quite Heavy (470 BD cost + 60 upgrade cost for Gathima , 90 cost -1 wlk -1 fly for AMJ) Low Ammo ( 60 for AMJ , 40 for Gathima without upgrade, 80 with 1 Upgrade, 100 with 2 upgrades)
still... if you are Gathima with Howitzer Build in , you can carry 2x AMJ (120 ammo) + Build in (100 ammo) = 220 ammo...it moer than enuf for entire game if you survived with no dead... | |
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Tryrant Regular Poster
Posts : 177 Join date : 2011-01-07 Location : Pleasure Island
| Subject: Re: Best missile in game? Tue May 10, 2011 12:03 am | |
| toybox am after buff has given me nothing but pure win so far without being tuned...yet. If not that then cruise missiles are always fun even though you can't rip them off and put them on another bot (o thank god). Box missiles also tuned or not they still wreck heck not as much as TB ams but good enough.
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boytitan2 Fishell
Posts : 8639 Join date : 2010-12-23 Age : 32 Location : Buffalo NewYork
| Subject: Re: Best missile in game? Tue May 10, 2011 12:03 am | |
| - Courius wrote:
- in my opinion
best missile for me is Howitzer ... either from Gathima Build-In or Howitzer AMJ (upgraded gathima howtizer better of course)
Pros : has Wide Turn Flight (almost 90 degree up down left right) very long range detection / chasing target (400 Range AMJ , 360 Gathima... imagine with blue circle) pretty fast reload (under powerspot / yellow circle you almost literaly volley this)
Cons: Size L , ART only (if AMJ) Pretty Slow Flight compared other missiles (still, combined with long range bit or blue circle make it deadly fast) Quite Heavy (470 BD cost + 60 upgrade cost for Gathima , 90 cost -1 wlk -1 fly for AMJ) Low Ammo ( 60 for AMJ , 40 for Gathima without upgrade, 80 with 1 Upgrade, 100 with 2 upgrades)
still... if you are Gathima with Howitzer Build in , you can carry 2x AMJ (120 ammo) + Build in (100 ammo) = 220 ammo...it moer than enuf for entire game if you survived with no dead... gathimas core good shop 1 is trash wait beyond trash | |
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Courius Betrayed Abbey
Posts : 935 Join date : 2010-10-27 Age : 48 Location : Somewhere flying
| Subject: Re: Best missile in game? Tue May 10, 2011 12:48 am | |
| like i said... it my opinion since im always stay at back line and snipe... im quite fail with face 2 face combat, even if someone hand me ivis with triple grapple sword and 40 wlk tune... (already tested with my own old beta ivis... im fail horribly)
another reason im like howitzer, im using em for detecting my target , so i can charge my railgun before they enter shoot range | |
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xzpwnz Legendary Poster
Posts : 4686 Join date : 2010-06-05 Age : 110
| Subject: Re: Best missile in game? Tue May 10, 2011 1:15 am | |
| - boytitan2 wrote:
- Courius wrote:
- in my opinion
best missile for me is Howitzer ... either from Gathima Build-In or Howitzer AMJ (upgraded gathima howtizer better of course)
Pros : has Wide Turn Flight (almost 90 degree up down left right) very long range detection / chasing target (400 Range AMJ , 360 Gathima... imagine with blue circle) pretty fast reload (under powerspot / yellow circle you almost literaly volley this)
Cons: Size L , ART only (if AMJ) Pretty Slow Flight compared other missiles (still, combined with long range bit or blue circle make it deadly fast) Quite Heavy (470 BD cost + 60 upgrade cost for Gathima , 90 cost -1 wlk -1 fly for AMJ) Low Ammo ( 60 for AMJ , 40 for Gathima without upgrade, 80 with 1 Upgrade, 100 with 2 upgrades)
still... if you are Gathima with Howitzer Build in , you can carry 2x AMJ (120 ammo) + Build in (100 ammo) = 220 ammo...it moer than enuf for entire game if you survived with no dead... gathimas core good
shop 1 is trash wait beyond trash >Gathima shop Wut | |
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ziix Burger Molcar
Posts : 3460 Join date : 2011-01-30 Age : 29
| Subject: Re: Best missile in game? Tue May 10, 2011 1:20 am | |
| - xzpwnz wrote:
- boytitan2 wrote:
- Courius wrote:
- in my opinion
best missile for me is Howitzer ... either from Gathima Build-In or Howitzer AMJ (upgraded gathima howtizer better of course)
Pros : has Wide Turn Flight (almost 90 degree up down left right) very long range detection / chasing target (400 Range AMJ , 360 Gathima... imagine with blue circle) pretty fast reload (under powerspot / yellow circle you almost literaly volley this)
Cons: Size L , ART only (if AMJ) Pretty Slow Flight compared other missiles (still, combined with long range bit or blue circle make it deadly fast) Quite Heavy (470 BD cost + 60 upgrade cost for Gathima , 90 cost -1 wlk -1 fly for AMJ) Low Ammo ( 60 for AMJ , 40 for Gathima without upgrade, 80 with 1 Upgrade, 100 with 2 upgrades)
still... if you are Gathima with Howitzer Build in , you can carry 2x AMJ (120 ammo) + Build in (100 ammo) = 220 ammo...it moer than enuf for entire game if you survived with no dead... gathimas core good
shop 1 is trash wait beyond trash >Gathima shop Wut He's comparing Gathima's howitzer and and Howitzer AMJ. | |
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boytitan2 Fishell
Posts : 8639 Join date : 2010-12-23 Age : 32 Location : Buffalo NewYork
| Subject: Re: Best missile in game? Tue May 10, 2011 2:36 am | |
| - Courius wrote:
- like i said... it my opinion since im always stay at back line and snipe... im quite fail with face 2 face combat, even if someone hand me ivis with triple grapple sword and 40 wlk tune... (already tested with my own old beta ivis... im fail horribly)
another reason im like howitzer, im using em for detecting my target , so i can charge my railgun before they enter shoot range I used to do that =) | |
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