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PostSubject: Re: [Ro]A small guide to Crimrose   [Ro]A small guide to Crimrose - Page 17 EmptyMon Jun 11, 2012 3:53 pm

Never heard about a mini bazooka?

@ question:

want skills? normal seraph

want to be a gayfag with quad lockon homing 44 force bullet jam and need no brains to get wings out?
Take fC seraph
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PostSubject: Re: [Ro]A small guide to Crimrose   [Ro]A small guide to Crimrose - Page 17 EmptyMon Jun 11, 2012 5:23 pm

@FireKiller87 wrote:
Second, the original is temporarily vulnerable while activating Seraph Wings.
Uh, Seraph has full invuln during wing activation.
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PostSubject: Re: [Ro]A small guide to Crimrose   [Ro]A small guide to Crimrose - Page 17 EmptyMon Jun 11, 2012 6:06 pm

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^ wow, nice necroing AGAIN. Read the rules, necroing isn't allowed.
No, you read the rules, necroing is allowed as long as it contributes in a way.
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PostSubject: Re: [Ro]A small guide to Crimrose   [Ro]A small guide to Crimrose - Page 17 EmptyWed Jun 13, 2012 6:35 am

If it's related to the thread.

Also this thread is not useless so it won't be locked anyway.
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PostSubject: Re: [Ro]A small guide to Crimrose   [Ro]A small guide to Crimrose - Page 17 EmptyWed Jun 13, 2012 10:11 pm

you can't even necro here, this is the only page there is.
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PostSubject: Re: [Ro]A small guide to Crimrose   [Ro]A small guide to Crimrose - Page 17 EmptyMon Jun 18, 2012 9:23 am

@FireKiller87 wrote:
^ wow, nice necroing AGAIN. Read the rules, necroing isn't allowed.

To answer your question, the original Seraph Crimrose is a bit weaker than the HD version. For one, she doesn't have that nuke-everything Seraph Nova with 44 Force and infinite ammo. The long interval didn't nerf it at all, so don't even think about that.

Second, the original is temporarily vulnerable while activating Seraph Wings. HD Seraph, IIRC, does not have this weakness.

However, I favor the original Seraph, as I hear from my clannie that HD Seraph doesn't fare very well in close combat, whereas an original Seraph will almost certainly have a weapon that's decent at close quarters.

So um, actually I'm raising one HD crim now, I'm pretty amused by her unlimited air loop catridge which I will not have in any other air...

is it wrong if I made a HD seraph crim built which concentrate on spamming uh that beam bowgun and air loop? Cause I can't afford giving air loop forever to my normal seraph crim '-'
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PostSubject: Re: [Ro]A small guide to Crimrose   [Ro]A small guide to Crimrose - Page 17 EmptyMon Jun 18, 2012 10:12 am

Uh, no

Keep the HD Crim as she is

Seraph can't roll/loop in wings mode so forget about loop on seraph of any kind.

With FC Seraph you have two routes: be a complete fat greasy fucking faggot and use seraph nova, or play it like a locked parts seraph, at which point you will find that serraph nova is BEAST for farming trees.

(BTW, are you talking about Beam Shooter/Mod? It's one of the best Seraph weapons.)
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PostSubject: Re: [Ro]A small guide to Crimrose   [Ro]A small guide to Crimrose - Page 17 EmptyMon Jun 18, 2012 10:37 am

Ah yes, I was talking about beam shooter not the mod one thou, just got that from... uh Eye forgot but yea gonna try it on my HD crim since Eye also just got her from that cube...

so she can't do air roll in Seraph, or only when her wing's spread open?

thanks for the warning thou, that'd help so much Very Happy
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PostSubject: Re: [Ro]A small guide to Crimrose   [Ro]A small guide to Crimrose - Page 17 EmptyMon Jun 18, 2012 11:08 am

She can't Roll/Loop when wings are out, which should be 98% of your playing time if you're playing a Seraph as she should be-->Wings, spam weapon, wings, wings, drop down and tackle people 'till you die
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PostSubject: Re: [Ro]A small guide to Crimrose   [Ro]A small guide to Crimrose - Page 17 EmptyMon Jun 18, 2012 11:21 am

Umn I know that much, but eye kinda hate the idea of sending a crim as a kamikaze troops so it'd be great if she can still spam all of the available weaponry (uhm ok count out the nova thingy) or at least spam tackle for farm...

<== not a good meelee user, not even able to use an axer '-'
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PostSubject: Re: [Ro]A small guide to Crimrose   [Ro]A small guide to Crimrose - Page 17 EmptyMon Jun 18, 2012 11:34 am

You won't exactly just right click spam; that's what the moederps do. Obv you shoot around a bit before getting close enough to tackle.

Most people don't like suicide seraph but if you play more, you'll realize just how efficient it is.

Besides, if you can retreat with the last few seconds of your wings you can still play defensively
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PostSubject: Re: [Ro]A small guide to Crimrose   [Ro]A small guide to Crimrose - Page 17 EmptyMon Jun 18, 2012 12:21 pm

Hmm... ok then, I'll try to see how it'll work then... oh that is if I got the seraph promotion XD
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PostSubject: Re: [Ro]A small guide to Crimrose   [Ro]A small guide to Crimrose - Page 17 EmptyThu Apr 04, 2013 9:02 am

Apply this to a seraph HD, bawse!
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@Reg3e wrote:
Apply this to a seraph HD, bawse!

Why would a FC even need a guide?
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@Seraphcrim wrote:
@Reg3e wrote:
Apply this to a seraph HD, bawse!

Why would a FC even need a guide?

cuz any generic playstyle will be outplay sooner or later? those that are outplayed usually rage harrdurr in forum more than those that aren't. o 3o
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PostSubject: Re: [Ro]A small guide to Crimrose   [Ro]A small guide to Crimrose - Page 17 EmptyThu Apr 04, 2013 8:18 pm

< points to the other seraph guide

yea whatever

back when I still played I loved seeing FCs because I knew they were crappily built, with crapton of FLY, little survivability, little TGH, probably no C-Veil, fat hitbox and get dropped in one hit from a para tuned plasma gun on my oldraph

Now if you could remove the stupid locked parts and put on something small and good, like frog legs then FC would be an amazing core with a completely failproof wing

In general FC works like a normal Seraph with twice the hitbox, more cost and a (now) less useful nova, unless you happen to see a bunch of people under a repair bit.

<3 most of the good old seraph weapons

And really? Suicidal seraph is generic and fly in-right click-fly back out rinse and repeat isn't?

And why are we posting on a guide that was outdated last year?
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Apply this to a seraph HD, bawse!
Eat a dick.
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My verdict on Seraph HD build: "Plays like old seraph, with nova addition & non-suicidal Seraph.W animation, Serious capa issue"

Playtyle: Seraph wing -> Slayer bit -> Gatling Gun -> Kite-ing -> Nova when they're escaping to a larger group / beyond gatling gun range / ran out of seraph wing.

Target: Fat/Slow AIR, LND, ART. Full Homing ART. Dual passive handheld wielding Nova Spammer. Ah-chan & VE?

What to Avoid: Blast Zooka series, Mialy, Monica Gold, Kagura (when wing-less), illumis (when wing-less), pepo puchii (specially the better players), MB Ragna, MB Muchi (w/ rouche AM), Pacifar x Flapjack AM, Fia (when wing-less), Bikini Lily (doesn't matter wing/wing-less), Resha Meluc (when wing-less), Resha Volx, High tracking melees (vanguard series, Eris, Luto, Skylvia... etc).

Advice: For once, actually try to survive, don't fly head-on, be creative and find new flight route to get closer to All Homing campers.

Average damage before death: 500++ Dmg/Death.

Chance of surviving in 1 vs 1 All type: Much higher than dual passive wielding Nova Spammer.

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^
Not 40 TEC
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Blah blah
Eat a dick.
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@Aria wrote:
^
Not 40 TEC

Since Tec doesn't affect much on Nova, according to CosmicCalc, 35Tec should be sufficient, not to mention Gatling gun mod [1x g.force] break point is at 35tec [20force] and 40tec [21force].

For Gatling gun mod, no reason to further tune force [3x g.force with only give you 4dmg addition from the original 12], I reco high shooter/ammo supply [If you have the cost].
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get back to feeding in clan fight and editing scoreboards son
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@Winty wrote:
get back to feeding in clan fight and editing scoreboards son

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