[Ro]A small guide to Crimrose

The OP lists High Force as the recommended tune.

I'd go with force too, zooka shots seem fast enough for their range to me.

Great force is also very good if you have capa to spare.
Great force will reduce ammo only by 16, compared to 11 high force, and will add +3 force instead of +2.
But then you need to boost TEC in order to gain more from your force tune. Do some tests with TEC to determine how much you really need for optimal performance, I'd say around 21-22.

As for rapid, i don't think I'd like it. Zooka is heavily affected with TGH reduction, so 5 hits with 23 force and 3 hits with 26 force could actually deal around same damage.

If things go well, this'll be my final build (taking into account all of the stuff I've already tuned)

【Robot Name】
Seraph Crimrose

【Parts】
BD： Seraph Crimrose BDγ
　WB： Slayer Bit
　LG： Seraph Crimrose LG [High Boost Beta] [Great Tech Alpha] [Tech] <-- Proto tunes
　HD： Seraph Crimrose HD
　　HDAC： Kinder Hat (There's no EVE Ornament at the CosmiCalc yet)
　　FCAC： Ace of Hearts Earrings [Great Boost]
　BS： Seraph Crimrose BS2
　AM： Wing Plus AMJ [Boost] <-- Proto tunes
　　AM： Lily Rain AM [High Boost Beta]
　　　WP： Mini Bazooka [Great Force Beta]
　AM： Wing Plus AMJ [Boost] <-- Proto tunes
　　AM： Lily Rain AM [High Boost Beta]
　　　WP： Wide Beam Gun [Great Force Beta] [Great Rapid Beta]

Config Check
COST： OK
BS： OK
LG： OK

Stats
TYPE： 空
SIZE： S
COST： 1190
CAPA： 1190
HP： 417
STR： 9
TEC： 21
WLK： 2
FLY： 40
TGH： 8

LEVEL 10

Cartridges
Capacity +70×6
Beam Guard
Quick Boost
Quick Jump
Float Dash

Materials
Fudara Cosmos×3
Turbo Charger×46
Yellow Chip×15
Red Chip×35
Drum Magazine×24
Midoro Cosmos×2
Stabilizer×22
Guide Circuit×11
Scope Lens×11
Hidora Cosmos×3
Rapid Crystal×32
Threede Cosmos×3
Strike Metal×18
Blue Chip×40
Acid Gel×30
Green Chip×20
Heat Ash×15

I'm kind of ticked that I won't be able to Air Roll without investing on the last cost cart though.

brb making your build better

EDIT:

【Robot Name】
Seraph Crimrose

【Parts】
BD： Seraph Crimrose BDγ
　WB： Beam Bit(default)
　LG： Seraph Crimrose LG [High Boost Beta] [Great Tech Alpha] [Great Tech Alpha]
　HD： Seraph Crimrose HD
　　HDAC： Kinder Hat
　　FCAC： Ace of Hearts Earrings [Great Boost Beta]
　BS： Seraph Crimrose BS2
　AM： Mach Knight AM [Great Boost Beta] [High Boost Beta] [High Boost Beta]
　　WP： Wide Beam Gun [Force]
　AM： Mach Knight AM [Great Boost Beta] [Great Tech Alpha] [Great Tech Alpha]
　　WP： Mini Bazooka [Great Force Alpha]

【Config Check】
COST： OK
BS： OK
LG： OK

【Stats】
TYPE： 空
SIZE： S
COST： 1140
CAPA： 1190
HP： 407
STR： -4
TEC： 27
WLK： 1
FLY： 40
TGH： 10

LEVEL： 10

【Cartridges】
Capacity +70×6
Beam Guard
Float Dash
Quick Boost
Quick Jump

【必要素材】
Fudara Cosmos×3
Midoro Cosmos×7
Ones Cosmos×1
Threede Cosmos×1
Red Chip×160
Yellow Chip×60
Stabilizer×68
Turbo Charger×54
Strike Metal×13
Scope Lens×44
Drum Magazine×30
Guide Circuit×44
Prism Glass×15

Trying to stick to your build, don't know what parts you have and what tunes you've already done. 50 free capacity for modification and tuning.

This is what I've already done so far.

NumeroDoS wrote:

Spoiler:

For some odd reason, I've found no 2s-3s Mach Knight AMs (Only LGs,, derp). Guess I'll probly have to settle with Lily AMs till I get my hands on those. :/

And, I dunno. Your build has negative STR. My luvly Slayer WB will cry. :<

NumeroDoS wrote:

This is what I've already done so far.

NumeroDoS wrote:

Spoiler:

For some odd reason, I've found no 2s-3s Mach Knight AMs (Only LGs,, derp). Guess I'll probly have to settle with Lily AMs till I get my hands on those. :/

And, I dunno. Your build has negative STR. My luvly Slayer WB will cry. :<

I thought tentrion ARMS are the best for air? is there no 3 slot version?

how about this?

【Robot Name】
Seraph Build Arm

【Parts】
BD： Seraph Crimrose BDγ
　WB： Slayer Bit
　LG： Seraph Crimrose LG [High Boost Beta] [High Tech Alpha] [High Tech Alpha]
　HD： Seraph Crimrose HD
　　HDAC： Kinder Hat
　　FCAC： Ace of Hearts Earrings
　BS： Seraph Crimrose BS2
　AM： Build Arm AM [Great Boost Beta] [Great Boost Beta] [High Tech Alpha]
　　WP： Plasma Gun [Great Rapid Beta]
　AM： Build Arm AM [Great Boost Beta] [Great Boost Beta] [High Tech Alpha]
　　WP： Mini Bazooka [Great Boost Beta]

【Config Check】
COST： OK
BS： OK
LG： OK

【Stats】
TYPE： 空
SIZE： S
COST： 1255
CAPA： 1260
HP： 409
STR： -1
TEC： 23
WLK： 1
FLY： 40
TGH： 8

LEVEL： 10

【Cartridges】
Capacity +70×7
Beam Guard
Quick Boost
Stealth System
Air Loop

【必要素材】
Fudara Cosmos×5
Midoro Cosmos×5
Threede Cosmos×1
Red Chip×120
Yellow Chip×80
Green Chip×20
Stabilizer×36
Turbo Charger×70
Rapid Crystal×17
Drum Magazine×38
Guide Circuit×28
Heat Ash×15

don't ask me why am I use build arm AM



or if Rt involved:

【Robot Name】
Seraph Soljeter

【Parts】
BD： Seraph Crimrose BDγ
　WB： Slayer Bit
　LG： Seraph Crimrose LG [High Boost Beta] [High Tech Alpha] [Tech]
　HD： Seraph Crimrose HD
　　HDAC： Kinder Hat
　　FCAC： Ace of Hearts Earrings
　BS： Seraph Crimrose BS2
　AM： Soljeter AM [High Boost Beta] [High Boost Beta] [High Tech Alpha]
　　WP： Plasma Gun [Great Rapid Beta]
　AM： Soljeter AM [High Boost Beta] [High Boost Beta] [High Tech Alpha]
　　WP： Mini Bazooka [Great Boost Beta]

【Config Check】
COST： OK
BS： OK
LG： OK

【Stats】
TYPE： 空
SIZE： S
COST： 1260
CAPA： 1260
HP： 429
STR： 2
TEC： 22
WLK： 1
FLY： 40
TGH： 8

LEVEL： 10

【Cartridges】
Capacity +70×7
Beam Guard
Quick Boost
Stealth System
Air Loop

【必要素材】
Hidora Cosmos×1
Fudara Cosmos×8
Midoro Cosmos×1
Threede Cosmos×1
Red Chip×70
Yellow Chip×40
Green Chip×20
Stabilizer×32
Turbo Charger×38
Rapid Crystal×17
Drum Magazine×22
Guide Circuit×21
Heat Ash×15




note:
-don't mind my tuned plasma gun and mini bazooka

-change "kinder hat" to "eve ornament" because they have same stats

Tent AMs are good ONLY if you're not going to tune. If you're going to tune, better get mach knight AMs (you can easily enough s2-s3 ones).
Why tent AMs are bad? Because AIR bots will have low WLK and the less wlk you have - the less high boost alpha/beta you can afford.

Build Arm seraph can easily have 1 str with same tec should you optimize tunes and use the slot in Ace Of Hearts.

Soljetter Seraph is just normal.

Oh crap, STEALTH. Get rid of it, get more capa for better tunes.

okay, I'll put it in my mind
and I having trouble because plasma gun's cost is very high and it has -2 wlk
is there any weapon that as good as plasma gun but smaller cost?

Limited Plasma Gun or tuned Wide Beam Gun.

Take a look at the Wide Beam Gun in my build (It's only 100 cost).

-I have only one limited plasma and no slots
-I don't have 2 slots wide beam gun and I only have 4 god damn cosmic stars
-Currently practicing using beam rifle with high force beta

3-slot wide beam guns drop from missions, don't waste cosmic coins on that crap.

I have a build made from UC parts for a mostly UC player. Can anybody comment on this please?
Calc input below

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FireKiller87 wrote:

I have a build made from UC parts for a mostly UC player. Can anybody comment on this please?
Calc input below

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Improved:

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The beauty of this setup is, since 3s mach knight ams and 3s plasma guns are both UC available, you're free to bork slots and still get away with this.

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^this one should work way better, though pain to tune.

Btw why are you doing 2x internal + quick boost/maxfly? They are kinda mutually exclusive if you ask me. Better pump in more TEC since you want to deal as much damage as possible.
Maybe something like that could do.

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wait, i just wanna confirm if I can get away with 29 fly provided im gonna have 2 internal upgrades?

Come to think of it, im gonna run out of ammo anyway by the time ive used up my 3 seraph wings anyway.

So can I just get lvl 6 capacity instead of 7?

koi wrote:

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^this one should work way better, though pain to tune.

Btw why are you doing 2x internal + quick boost/maxfly? They are kinda mutually exclusive if you ask me. Better pump in more TEC since you want to deal as much damage as possible.
Maybe something like that could do.

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I'm probably gonna chop off the max FLY for more TEC, although I want to have at least 25-30 base FLY so I'm not overly dependent on Seraph Wings for evading attacks.

Here is my idea if I can't pull off a capa tune on Seraph LG.
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If the capa tune works out, this is a slightly more tuned build.
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EDIT: I don't know how to get the code string to spit out the builds you all designed, so I couldn't check them out. Sorry

Hey koi, do propeller bits prolong seraph wings? I found out recently they do with Shaden BS, so if they work with wings too, it could make for a pretty awesome combo; especially since your bit probably won't get blown up with your wings covering them.

Well, winged Seraph idea is to fly while wings are active, spamming whatever weapon she has. I think 109 seconds of pure fly time should be enough to empty the plasma gun clip. Then you usually die because retreating with low fly and without dashes is just a waste of time.

As for cosmicalc, there's INPUT button there. Click it, window opens. Paste code string there.

@Suguri
No, they don't. Wings are based on duration timer instead of normal boost gauge. That's why no prop bit for winged Seraphs. You better get dual beam bit or slayer.

koi wrote:

Well, winged Seraph idea is to fly while wings are active, spamming whatever weapon she has. I think 109 seconds of pure fly time should be enough to empty the plasma gun clip. Then you usually die because retreating with low fly and without dashes is just a waste of time.

As for cosmicalc, there's INPUT button there. Click it, window opens. Paste code string there.

@Suguri
No, they don't. Wings are based on duration timer instead of normal boost gauge. That's why no prop bit for winged Seraphs. You better get dual beam bit or slayer.

Yeah, I input the code and put in the string. Nothing comes up.

@koi,

Does that mean I'm doing it wrong with my 40 FLY, 2 (and eventually 3)-Winged Seraph? I mean, mine is usually a Wisp-spammer, but I always liked how it can continue fighting with ABR as a superior-statted Crim after blowing its Wisps and Wings.

If my Crimrose has Air Loop and is promoted to Seraph, would the custom cartridge still expire despite being able to inherit it? Sorry if it was dumb of me to ask because I'm just about ready to promote Crim to Seraph and wanted to make sure if Air Loop is recommended or save capacity for other cartridges, tuning, etc.

It will stay.

Ascaloth wrote:

@koi,

Does that mean I'm doing it wrong with my 40 FLY, 2 (and eventually 3)-Winged Seraph? I mean, mine is usually a Wisp-spammer, but I always liked how it can continue fighting with ABR as a superior-statted Crim after blowing its Wisps and Wings.

I personally think fly-builds are still fine with wings. Prop bit + triple wing seraph can play like a pseudo doubleshadenfag.

koi wrote:

It will stay.

Even after Air Loop's 7 or 30 Day timer expires? Would the cost be manageable for a Seraph with little to no tuning? I've seen other builds in this thread in which weapons, parts and cartridges took up capacity with no room for Air Loop.