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PostSubject: Moving Burst   Moving Burst EmptyMon Apr 25, 2011 4:09 am

How does it work on airs? Does it lock in movement like izuna wisps? Can u hold both buttons it down and fly normally?
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PostSubject: Re: Moving Burst   Moving Burst EmptyMon Apr 25, 2011 4:18 am

@p910 wrote:
Can u hold both buttons it down and fly normally?

yes for 1-2 seconds then you stop flying and fall

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Does it lock in movement like izuna wisps?

please explain further
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PostSubject: Re: Moving Burst   Moving Burst EmptyMon Apr 25, 2011 5:35 am

@p910 wrote:
How does it work on airs? Does it lock in movement like izuna wisps? Can u hold both buttons it down and fly normally?

Nope, it doesn't lock movement. You can strafe and hold both mouse buttons. For ease of use or explaination, if you're using 2 mini zookas, you can hold both mouse buttons for 1 shot from both zookas without falling.
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PostSubject: Re: Moving Burst   Moving Burst EmptyMon Apr 25, 2011 6:22 am

OK, thx. So, will moving burst increase overall dps if say I move burst with helligal's pulse missles.

Cuz it sounds like you are limited to one or two burst at a time before u drop.

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PostSubject: Re: Moving Burst   Moving Burst EmptyMon Apr 25, 2011 6:32 am

@p910 wrote:
OK, thx. So, will moving burst increase overall dps if say I move burst with helligal's pulse missles.

Cuz it sounds like you are limited to one or two burst at a time before u drop.



You're limited to generally 1 burst before you drop. Its good for hit and run situations, but on a Hellingal who only has pulse missiles, why would you bother, lol.
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PostSubject: Re: Moving Burst   Moving Burst EmptyMon Apr 25, 2011 7:03 am

The best candidates for moving burst are those with internal weapons, such as Air Raider, XX Cross Raptor and Psycho Cluster.

I think Air Raider had the first effective moving burst build, so that's why this is more common:
Air raider BD
Frau AM x2
2 weapons of choice
Tentrion HD.
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PostSubject: Re: Moving Burst   Moving Burst EmptyMon Apr 25, 2011 7:06 am

@ziix wrote:
The best candidates for moving burst are those with internal weapons, such as Air Raider, XX Cross Raptor and Psycho Cluster.

I think Air Raider had the first effective moving burst build, so that's why this is more common:
Air raider BD
Frau AM x2
Cross Shooters.
Tentrion HD.
:3 Fixed.
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PostSubject: Re: Moving Burst   Moving Burst EmptyMon Apr 25, 2011 7:16 am

@Broken wrote:
@ziix wrote:
The best candidates for moving burst are those with internal weapons, such as Air Raider, XX Cross Raptor and Psycho Cluster.

I think Air Raider had the first effective moving burst build, so that's why this is more common:
Air raider BD
Frau AM x2
Cross Shooters.
Tentrion HD.
:3 Fixed.

But I've seen people pull it off with Auto Beam rifles, Beam rifles, Wide beam guns and beam machineguns o_o
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PostSubject: Re: Moving Burst   Moving Burst EmptyMon Apr 25, 2011 7:27 am

@ziix wrote:
@Broken wrote:
@ziix wrote:
The best candidates for moving burst are those with internal weapons, such as Air Raider, XX Cross Raptor and Psycho Cluster.

I think Air Raider had the first effective moving burst build, so that's why this is more common:
Air raider BD
Frau AM x2
Cross Shooters.
Tentrion HD.
:3 Fixed.

But I've seen people pull it off with Auto Beam rifles, Beam rifles, Wide beam guns and beam machineguns o_o
Wide beam guns are for poor boy like me.
DBMG is good.
Iono about Beam rifle and ABR though~.
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PostSubject: Re: Moving Burst   Moving Burst EmptyMon Apr 25, 2011 7:46 am

I personally run x2 Brickgale BMGs and x2 great speed tuned wide beams on my Derp Raider. Its more specialized in mid to close-range combat since the BMGs tear through lands and Arts like a hot knife on butter, esp with hypershot. The build may vary with the play-style and rt budget of the user but generally Tentrion HD is a staple.

So far the best alpha striking air core is still Air Raider. I attempted to make MB builds for XX Cross Raptor, Psycho Cluster and other cores on Cosmiccalc but Raider still came out on top, mainly because of its ridiculous stats, hitbox size and max capacity. Most of the other cores can't even carry that much weaps due to low capa:stats ratio.
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PostSubject: Re: Moving Burst   Moving Burst EmptyMon Apr 25, 2011 8:14 am

@Broken wrote:
@ziix wrote:
@Broken wrote:

:3 Fixed.

But I've seen people pull it off with Auto Beam rifles, Beam rifles, Wide beam guns and beam machineguns o_o
Wide beam guns are for poor boy like me.
DBMG is good.
Iono about Beam rifle and ABR though~.
You just want weapons that you know will hit if you burst with them, which is why cross shooter is popular - lots of range, lots of speed. Added bonus that frau arms and cross shooters both stun a lot.
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PostSubject: Re: Moving Burst   Moving Burst EmptyMon Apr 25, 2011 8:51 am

Speaking of MB airs.
Mecha jetter MB,want?
It's gonna be fully uc with Wide Beam gun and tetrion HD so im not sure if it'll provide enough dakka.
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PostSubject: Re: Moving Burst   Moving Burst EmptyMon Apr 25, 2011 8:53 am

@Broken wrote:
Speaking of MB airs.
Mecha jetter MB,want?
It's gonna be fully uc with Wide Beam gun and tetrion HD so im not sure if it'll provide enough dakka.

I was thinking about that actually.

MB MJ with 2 minizooks >.>
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PostSubject: Re: Moving Burst   Moving Burst EmptyMon Apr 25, 2011 9:23 am

I've been wondering why nobody mentions MBing with Garula AMs. I'm building a Raider to eventually put these AMs on it at Level 9.

I'm doing it wrong? Sad
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PostSubject: Re: Moving Burst   Moving Burst EmptyMon Apr 25, 2011 9:28 am

Alphafags.

don't bother with it on helingal.
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PostSubject: Re: Moving Burst   Moving Burst EmptyMon Apr 25, 2011 9:30 am

@Ascaloth wrote:
I've been wondering why nobody mentions MBing with Garula AMs. I'm building a Raider to eventually put these AMs on it at Level 9.

I'm doing it wrong? Sad

Aside from ammo, nothing seems wrong.

Put quad gaybird ams though. You'll want to dish out the greatest amount of damage as much as possible
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PostSubject: Re: Moving Burst   Moving Burst EmptyMon Apr 25, 2011 9:39 am

@ziix wrote:
@Ascaloth wrote:
I've been wondering why nobody mentions MBing with Garula AMs. I'm building a Raider to eventually put these AMs on it at Level 9.

I'm doing it wrong? Sad

Aside from ammo, nothing seems wrong.

Put quad gaybird ams though. You'll want to dish out the greatest amount of damage as much as possible

I CosmiCalced it, and Quad Garulas would bork up the 40 FLY tuned Raider build I would have with just dual Garulas. Neutral

How much FLY does an MB Raider actually need, anyway?
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PostSubject: Re: Moving Burst   Moving Burst EmptyMon Apr 25, 2011 9:40 am

@Ascaloth wrote:

How much FLY does an MB Raider actually need, anyway?

ALL AIRs need 40 fly. Except seraphs who rely on wings and L-airs with shaden BS.
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PostSubject: Re: Moving Burst   Moving Burst EmptyMon Apr 25, 2011 9:43 am

@ziix wrote:
@Ascaloth wrote:

How much FLY does an MB Raider actually need, anyway?

ALL AIRs need 40 fly. Except seraphs who rely on wings and L-airs with shaden BS.

Then I can't go Quad Garula in most situations then?

At least now I know why I remember someone saying Quad Garula MB is for Epoch Offense.
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PostSubject: Re: Moving Burst   Moving Burst EmptyMon Apr 25, 2011 9:47 am

@Ascaloth wrote:


Then I can't go Quad Garula in most situations then?

At least now I know why I remember someone saying Quad Garula MB is for Epoch Offense.

Nah, I'm sure you can go through most situations with quad gaybird ams.


But yeah, the cost and stat reductions make quad gaybird arms better for epoch xD
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PostSubject: Re: Moving Burst   Moving Burst EmptyMon Apr 25, 2011 9:54 am

You usually just use it to fly while spamming only one of them when using garula AM.
Much more mobile since it's a short time burst weapon, unlike cross shooter that shoot continuously at longer time. Xshooter is better option for alphagging.
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PostSubject: Re: Moving Burst   Moving Burst EmptyMon Apr 25, 2011 10:17 am

@Cori wrote:
You usually just use it to fly while spamming only one of them when using garula AM.
Much more mobile since it's a short time burst weapon, unlike cross shooter that shoot continuously at longer time. Xshooter is better option for alphagging.

QFT. garula ams not made for mobile burst.
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PostSubject: Re: Moving Burst   Moving Burst EmptyMon Apr 25, 2011 10:24 am

I considered putting MB and Garula AM together because I'm quite familiar with how the former works (I have a MB Burabaz Lily), and have tried out Garula AMs enough times to have an idea of how they work. Since you have to use MB in short bursts to avoid your AIR falling out of the sky, I was thinking the short interval of Garula AMs would be complementary to it; it would help train me to keep my Alphas short and sweet.

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