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PostSubject: How I view scoring and others should   How I view scoring and others should EmptyMon Apr 11, 2011 7:51 am

as u noticed I will glady die to chase a kill of some one who has hit me and get yelled at for it --. but let me break down how I view points

Most players have 400-500 hp so every 1000 dmg is 2 kills worth of dmg.

My bots cost 1400-900 cost depending on bot.

Now lets say I ahve a game were I do 3500 points worth dmg and hav 5k cost and around 6 -8 frags

Fps terms that still=s positive kds lest say each bot I killed coast 1000 bp I delt 2000 more dmg of bp to other team than what I costed there for thats a positive KD. 8000bp is what I took from the other team at the cost of 5000 bp

so either Im gonga get a ton of kill and do tons of dmg or do really bad its a risk I take but the high out put of dmg I do when it works out solowing is good for me .

To those ppl
who say I cost alot of bp I did 4 times much dmg to the other team than u.

so when you look at it like this I rarely have a game were I cost the team since I take more bp form the other team than what I cost
which is why I wish cb just used a normal kd scoreing so some ppl could see how bad they are

(excludeing clan tournemnt I didnt even get to fight back T__T)



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heres a screen shot to help explain i got trolled for a scre like this cause my bp lets do the math that bp is from 3 deaths

I did 3.7k dmg each bot has 400-500hp In total thats 8 kills worth of dmg meaning Im the reason alone for 8000-10000 of the other teams bp loss.

Point of this thread just cause I have more cost than dmg at tiem dosent mean i didnt take more bp than what my bots cost from the other team so for now On do the math before u troll my cost.
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PostSubject: Re: How I view scoring and others should   How I view scoring and others should EmptyMon Apr 11, 2011 7:54 am

But your not using ARTS anymore right? Your LND now.
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PostSubject: Re: How I view scoring and others should   How I view scoring and others should EmptyMon Apr 11, 2011 7:59 am

IMO, it's always better to survive, farm ammo and 100+hp's, and do more shenanigans for maximum damage with 0 cost.

I get your point though o3o, as long as those kills you mentioned weren't KSed.
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PostSubject: Re: How I view scoring and others should   How I view scoring and others should EmptyMon Apr 11, 2011 8:01 am

3325 cost, I'll assume you died 3 times and at 2star - crown rank.

Say your first bot dies at 1800 cost.
2nd at 2500
3rd at 3000

That's 7300 cost.

Yes, you did contribute more then how much you cost.

But the idea of the game is to get the highest score without costing the team much.

I would rather you not die and do 1000-1700 damage then die 3 times.
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PostSubject: Re: How I view scoring and others should   How I view scoring and others should EmptyMon Apr 11, 2011 8:18 am

boytitan2 wrote:
stuff
cool story bro
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PostSubject: Re: How I view scoring and others should   How I view scoring and others should EmptyMon Apr 11, 2011 8:26 am

boytitan2 wrote:

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THAT COST

NOT ENUFF DAMAGE CONSIDERING YOU STAT BONUS


(and I feel your pain,I derp carry wiz all the time)
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PostSubject: Re: How I view scoring and others should   How I view scoring and others should EmptyMon Apr 11, 2011 8:28 am

Nisa wrote:
boytitan2 wrote:

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THAT COST

NOT ENUFF DAMAGE CONSIDERING YOU STAT BONUS


(and I feel your pain,I derp carry wiz all the time)

its not my fault i suffer from insane amounts of lag and WIZ also sucks in general

infact, If the lag was fixed I might be able to play properly and be scoring top 10 like what I usually place >_>
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PostSubject: Re: How I view scoring and others should   How I view scoring and others should EmptyMon Apr 11, 2011 9:10 am

Better idea: Play the same way, but if pursuing is going to get you killed, don't.

How I view scoring and others should 1s07c2
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PostSubject: Re: How I view scoring and others should   How I view scoring and others should EmptyMon Apr 11, 2011 9:14 am

boytitan2 wrote:
blablabla...

sry this isnt a normal fps there are things here that modify and turn upside down your "great" theories...
healing (yep you got 3 enemies to half hp and you died.. too bad by the time you respawn they got healed to full)
shields (o hai unseen hp)
cost modifiers (those lil stars/crown above your head can make your actual cost skyrocket)
..and I could go on but there is no point as you wouldnt understand anyway.

inb4 rage/qq

(ps. come back after you got better, its no use trying to make yourself look better by posting scrub bullsh*t all over the place)

(oh and sorry for the rant.)
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PostSubject: Re: How I view scoring and others should   How I view scoring and others should EmptyMon Apr 11, 2011 9:21 am

Puddin' wrote:
3325 cost, I'll assume you died 3 times and at 2star - crown rank.

Say your first bot dies at 1800 cost.
2nd at 2500
3rd at 3000

That's 7300 cost.

Yes, you did contribute more then how much you cost.

But the idea of the game is to get the highest score without costing the team much.

I would rather you not die and do 1000-1700 damage then die 3 times.

Don't be so hard on him, lol.
I have yet to see any bot costing 3000. and 2star -crown rank should only be around 1400 BP if his bot cost 1000. and Rambo type of people is great for scattering the frontline while the teammates picks on the enemies so I think he is quite justified in incuring 4000+ BP with 2000 contribution. Problem is if the teammates did not use the opportunities, the rambo is rendered useless.


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PostSubject: Re: How I view scoring and others should   How I view scoring and others should EmptyMon Apr 11, 2011 9:22 am

I herp 90% of the time, and get awards 75% of the time.

Problem about scoring, titan?
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PostSubject: Re: How I view scoring and others should   How I view scoring and others should EmptyMon Apr 11, 2011 9:24 am

LoReLei wrote:

I have yet to see any bot costing 3000 though.lol.
Highest possible cost on a bot is 1745 with a Mighty Byne. If that dies with crown it'll cost 5235 BP.
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PostSubject: Re: How I view scoring and others should   How I view scoring and others should EmptyMon Apr 11, 2011 10:04 am

Nisa wrote:
THAT COST

NOT ENUFF DAMAGE CONSIDERING YOU STAT BONUS


(and I feel your pain,I derp carry wiz all the time)

Nisa carry's me all the time <3
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PostSubject: Re: How I view scoring and others should   How I view scoring and others should EmptyMon Apr 11, 2011 10:13 am

I think that its something like . . .

damage = ranged normal + melee + support (where support apply to damage only if its something like stun or burn or hippos/items)

damage/kill . . . it depend. many have 300/370 HP, many have 400/500 HP, some even have 550/600 HP (I could make my Mobile Fortress to get to 550 HP and its a Destructor)

yet, lets consider that guys like BoyTitan have bots with 500HP . . . taking from the lower, that is around 250HP for starter bots and considering most have ots with 300/350 HP, the average/kill should be considered as 400 (average from 250 to 600 and average from 350 to 500 then average from both then average of both averages)

considering it as 400HP/kill:
3200 damage = 8 kills

the same goes when u`re healling . . .

400HP/full heal
4000 support and 0 damage = 10 full heals


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PostSubject: Re: How I view scoring and others should   How I view scoring and others should EmptyMon Apr 11, 2011 10:14 am

But ur team lost that battle Razz
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PostSubject: Re: How I view scoring and others should   How I view scoring and others should EmptyMon Apr 11, 2011 10:27 am

Puddin' wrote:
3325 cost, I'll assume you died 3 times and at 2star - crown rank.

Say your first bot dies at 1800 cost.
2nd at 2500
3rd at 3000

That's 7300 cost.

Yes, you did contribute more then how much you cost.

But the idea of the game is to get the highest score without costing the team much.

I would rather you not die and do 1000-1700 damage then die 3 times.

WTF! didn't all u see the screenshot from titan?

the 7-8 ranks got just 1500 or less... then he got all the other team, he alone makes the mach for his team.. sure, he will get a high cost, but he killed a lot of the other, I must say that he was playing almost alone!!! being alone will give him a high cost, that wasnt 1 v 1... that was something like 15 v Titan....


so... he is a real Titan! xD....
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PostSubject: Re: How I view scoring and others should   How I view scoring and others should EmptyMon Apr 11, 2011 10:46 am

Mirien wrote:
But ur team lost that battle Razz

I was using it as a example of a game I got blamed for cause the lost and explain exactly how much dmg= towards bp subtraction of other team
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PostSubject: Re: How I view scoring and others should   How I view scoring and others should EmptyMon Apr 11, 2011 11:10 am

boytitan2 wrote:
Mirien wrote:
But ur team lost that battle Razz

I was using it as a example of a game I got blamed for cause the lost and explain exactly how much dmg= towards bp subtraction of other team
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IronFist wrote:
I think that its something like . . .

damage = ranged normal + melee + support (where support apply to damage only if its something like stun or burn or hippos/items)

damage/kill . . . it depend. many have 300/370 HP, many have 400/500 HP, some even have 550/600 HP (I could make my Mobile Fortress to get to 550 HP and its a Destructor)

yet, lets consider that guys like BoyTitan have bots with 500HP . . . taking from the lower, that is around 250HP for starter bots and considering most have ots with 300/350 HP, the average/kill should be considered as 400 (average from 250 to 600 and average from 350 to 500 then average from both then average of both averages)

considering it as 400HP/kill:
3200 damage = 8 kills

the same goes when u`re healling . . .

400HP/full heal
4000 support and 0 damage = 10 full heals
I think its a fair calc of damage/kills or support/lives saved
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PostSubject: Re: How I view scoring and others should   How I view scoring and others should EmptyMon Apr 11, 2011 11:45 am

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he 7-8 ranks got just 1500 or less... then he got all the other team, he alone makes the mach for his team.. sure, he will get a high cost, but he killed a lot of the other, I must say that he was playing almost alone!!! being alone will give him a high cost, that wasnt 1 v 1... that was something like 15 v Titan....
Your theory would be absolute right if it was a once-in-a-while occasion
But then Boytitan wouldn't be this famous if that was the case.
And he won't be posting this 'great' theory to begin with.

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I was using it as a example of a game I got blamed for cause the lost and explain exactly how much dmg= towards bp subtraction of other team
Weren't you the one yelling at em in that SS?
Suspect
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PostSubject: Re: How I view scoring and others should   How I view scoring and others should EmptyMon Apr 11, 2011 12:00 pm

LoReLei wrote:
Puddin' wrote:
3325 cost, I'll assume you died 3 times and at 2star - crown rank.

Say your first bot dies at 1800 cost.
2nd at 2500
3rd at 3000

That's 7300 cost.

Yes, you did contribute more then how much you cost.

But the idea of the game is to get the highest score without costing the team much.

I would rather you not die and do 1000-1700 damage then die 3 times.

Don't be so hard on him, lol.
I have yet to see any bot costing 3000. and 2star -crown rank should only be around 1400 BP if his bot cost 1000. and Rambo type of people is great for scattering the frontline while the teammates picks on the enemies so I think he is quite justified in incuring 4000+ BP with 2000 contribution. Problem is if the teammates did not use the opportunities, the rambo is rendered useless.

I carried the whole team with a byne once,and cost 5625,went WTF?!?!?!?! when I died :/
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PostSubject: Re: How I view scoring and others should   How I view scoring and others should EmptyMon Apr 11, 2011 12:04 pm

I screw the scores just like I screw the sun.
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PostSubject: Re: How I view scoring and others should   How I view scoring and others should EmptyMon Apr 11, 2011 12:47 pm

Boytitan did 3780 damage, 3325 cost not including cost penalty.

Buddy did 4740 damage, 0 cost. <---this is how you should play.

Boytitan think he is helping.... Sleep

Spoiler:
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PostSubject: Re: How I view scoring and others should   How I view scoring and others should EmptyMon Apr 11, 2011 12:52 pm

You should score like this BoyTitan
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PostSubject: Re: How I view scoring and others should   How I view scoring and others should EmptyMon Apr 11, 2011 1:32 pm

lol nice guys
i never achieved 3k damage before with my crap bots Embarassed
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PostSubject: Re: How I view scoring and others should   How I view scoring and others should EmptyMon Apr 11, 2011 1:34 pm

I wish I could brag like most people here too x_x"

I got.. I got game warrior before...

I had 5K score
...

Q_Q

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