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aosepsa
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@Maelstrom wrote:
Last time cs did nerfed something was on the berz/homura/theia/hanna/giganberg nerf patch, right?

Berz -> loses Blast Guard while Reignition, because there was almost nothing could sure-kill against her

Homura -> more charge time on WB, doesn't auto-charge while taking damage, WB demolition does not debuff LND anymore(this is crucial, because also there was almost nothing could go against her in past except meme seraph and anti-homo builds), more cooldown time on Decoy Dash

Theiamillis -> her Barrier Reignition does not reduce any blast-attribute weapons to 99% anymore

Hanna -> less knockback range & melee stun time

Giganberg series(technically rework and glitch fix, which synergies nerf LUUL) -> both blast now deals 1 burst damage(used to have aftermath damage which lasted long like Antlion Huge Cannon, which deals add't damage against non-stunned enemies or approaching enemies in a way) with GVeil lifting stun

└ BULK no longer can bypass "Transformation" cooldown after blasts chainsaw with Jet Accel or any Action BS(Aqua Jet, Sol Volca, you name it)
 
   └2nd rework(and calls broken leg): reduces Force from 60 ->50, Transform now gives separate ammo (15 -> 2) and non-shell-drainable. 2 chainsaw blast transforms back BULK with 8 second cooldown(this is main reason why I say BULK is dead), while each blast interval remained same(4 seconds)

※What they also nerfed in process is spamming of Jet Accel series, almost had no cooldown right after you use Jet Accel and could run away. Hikaroo ahem
But they increased cooldown time significantly, so it is impossible to fly away with Jet Accel anymore.
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I were trying to remember what was changed, thanks for this!
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PostSubject: Re: Most random thing you've seen or done today on CB?   Most random thing you've seen or done today on CB? - Page 20 EmptyFri Nov 04, 2016 12:14 pm

Iirc Theia's barrier never worked against blast damage, but whatever.
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yes it did, it was literally a flying chain guard
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no it doesn't
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it was just a barrier that could completely block non blast projectiles instead of the chain guard...
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>- Theiamillis BD/BD2's BARRIER STEP will protect against 99% of non-explosives rather than 100%.

I'd say it went from original Chain guard to nerfed Chain Guard (100% meant nothing at all, 99% allows stuns and status). Blast always worked against her it seems.
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@LazFlamme wrote:
Just asking, is the most annoying part of Alice her reverse cannon?

Not only that:

It's range (base 390, even more with Alice's long range self-buff) and being the best homing in the entire game make it annoying.

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It can hit things that aren't on the screen.


Imagine this:

You are fighting alice with an ART.  
She can shoot her cannon debuff way before she is in your range (390 range, 420+ with her long range self-buff).  
Since it has the best homing in the entire game it hits you and does quite a good amount of damage.
You try to aim at her but since your controls are messed up you can't.
The debuff runs out and you try to aim at her.
Your weapons, even homing, do not hit her because she has a speed-up self buff too.
She uses her fast, homing, multiple-hit, boost-recover beam attacks to damage while she recovers her boost.
She uses her 390~420 range homing debuff to you again.
You die.

Edit: She has Anti-homing too.

Alice, an AIR, annihilated an ART bot getting virtually no damage; And Cyberstep thinks this is fine.


@aosepsa wrote:

Berz -> loses Blast Guard while Reignition, because there was almost nothing could sure-kill against her

Homura -> more charge time on WB, doesn't auto-charge while taking damage, WB demolition does not debuff LND anymore(this is crucial, because also there was almost nothing could go against her in past except meme seraph and anti-homo builds), more cooldown time on Decoy Dash

This is why Alice needs a nerf.

Her anti-homing needs to be removed and her homing debuff should not out-range ARTs average weapons nor it should affect ARTs. I would drop it from 390 to 290, 310 with her long range self-buff.



Both homura and berz were nerfed so they weren't strong against the type of bot that was meant to kill them (LND for homura, ART for reignition berz).


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I wonder if someone else ever saw her debuff bullet doing laps around people. Saw that a couple of times and it's just, what.
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Alice's deathball isn't what makes her broken. It's the Speed Up+Anti-Homing self-buff paired with Glide Boost. You're complaining about the one thing that isn't even a big deal.
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Diabolical wrote:
Alice's deathball isn't what makes her broken. It's the Speed Up+Anti-Homing self-buff paired with Glide Boost. You're complaining about the one thing that isn't even a big deal.

She has anti-homing too?

God dammit.

CS, they made the perfect robot.
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Berz doesn't just lose blast guard, it takes bonus damage similar to an air.
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Ah okay, thanks for all the corrections I was wrong of.


390 Base Range x1.3 modifier with Long Range = 507

>>507

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Diabolical wrote:
Alice's deathball isn't what makes her broken.
It's one of various things she have.
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@Fleur wrote:
Diabolical wrote:
Alice's deathball isn't what makes her broken. It's the Speed Up+Anti-Homing self-buff paired with Glide Boost. You're complaining about the one thing that isn't even a big deal.

She has anti-homing too?

God dammit.

CS, they made the perfect robot.

Basicaly everything you can think, she probably can have...
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I heard melt Frau is guud
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Frau Adone LG is good to trigger statuses, yes. Are you whoring your account or something? Because everybody playing longer than a month should know about that LG :V
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@Zwiebel Force wrote:
Frau Adone LG is good to trigger statuses, yes. Are you whoring your account or something? Because everybody playing longer than a month should know about that LG :V

I was changing the subject but kek
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@aosepsa wrote:
Ah okay, thanks for all the corrections I was wrong of.


390 Base Range x1.3 modifier with Long Range = 507

>>507

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Oh wow, long range is x1.3 increase?

I thought long range just added a little more like 20-30 range. A set amount.

500+ range for an AIR is just broken, specially one that has plenty of other buffs and debuffs like Alice.
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I think the confuse ray is what's annoying since adjusting your controls while debuffed and fighting an Alice who moves faster and can easily hit you with homing weapons while you're recovering makes it even harder.
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@Fleur wrote:
@aosepsa wrote:
Ah okay, thanks for all the corrections I was wrong of.


390 Base Range x1.3 modifier with Long Range = 507

>>507

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Oh wow, long range is x1.3 increase?

I thought long range just added a little more like 20-30 range. A set amount.

500+ range for an AIR is just broken, specially one that has plenty of other buffs and debuffs like Alice.
long range was confirmed (by sugu I think) to be x2 h.shooters
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@mechaRev wrote:

long range was confirmed (by sugu I think) to be x2 h.shooters
20% speed and range eh?
so gladiator buff would be the same? 2 high glad or 1 glad or something else?
actually what about the sky gladiator core tune?
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Quote :
Speed Up+Anti-Homing buff
if u want to hit alice, u need some good shit with 500+ speed or more
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Welp the death ball is pretty broken. Mainly because of the fking annoying stun that leaves you wide open for other peeps and that alice to shoot at you. The homing on that death ball is ridiculous but its slow. However it can get faster by using long range buff.

I rlly wonder why they put a low cooldown on that weapon.


IF the alice isnt warping everywhere, Lisel would be a good bot to use against her. Otherwise try to use cs berz + long range (when usagi san comes there to fk it up).
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@Esequienes? wrote:
For some reason my last post got deleted so here it goes again...


Read the topic name: "Most random thing you've seen or done today on CB?"

Theres a bazaar topic for those things.
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