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Subject: Re: Most random thing you've seen or done today on CB? Fri Apr 03, 2015 12:57 am
Sylvia is a really good example of a bot that QSR dicks over. Her combo will flat out drop if you have it/your tough is on the lower end of the spectrum.
VietPho Always Drunk
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Subject: Re: Most random thing you've seen or done today on CB? Fri Apr 03, 2015 1:42 am
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Subject: Re: Most random thing you've seen or done today on CB? Fri Apr 03, 2015 1:59 am
I tried air Nemlin out before I decide what to put on her weapons and if to include any handhelds.. and I found out that I can't hit shit with her untuned homing beams.
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elmatalast Molcars Party Hard
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Subject: Re: Most random thing you've seen or done today on CB? Fri Apr 03, 2015 2:32 am
Next time make a video on how you walk in the lobby
Guest Guest
Subject: Re: Most random thing you've seen or done today on CB? Fri Apr 03, 2015 10:54 am
I got my 100 cards and Deluxe Coin
Finally, Initione is mine!
Also, I got 20 Arena Cards, for an extra 100,000UC too!
Arti Ace Poster
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Subject: Re: Most random thing you've seen or done today on CB? Fri Apr 03, 2015 1:31 pm
AnTi90d wrote:
I tried air Nemlin out before I decide what to put on her weapons and if to include any handhelds.. and I found out that I can't hit shit with her untuned homing beams.
you've gotta tune grapid alpha on the crosses and overrange
AnTi90d Grand Poster
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Subject: Re: Most random thing you've seen or done today on CB? Fri Apr 03, 2015 2:33 pm
Arti wrote:
AnTi90d wrote:
I tried air Nemlin out before I decide what to put on her weapons and if to include any handhelds.. and I found out that I can't hit shit with her untuned homing beams.
you've gotta tune grapid alpha on the crosses and overrange
That was one of the two choices that I was considering.
The homing beams converge at around 300 range. Shooting at someone that's 200 range away usually results in over half of them missing, because the convergence point is so far past them.. So, alpha Rapid and Force tunes would closen the convergence point which should make hitting things much easier. (I'm considering: Great Force Alpha / High Force Alpha / Great Rapid Alpha to quicken the projectiles and increase each of their force from 7 to 9.)
The other choice was to remove her homing beams and just slap some handhelds on her.. which would be a waste of her homing cross beams.. since she's the only unit in the entire game that has her type of weapon. (I'd probably go with something like a crystal beamgun mod or two.)
My biggest concern with air Nemmu is antihoming. She only has two weapons.. one is a remote and remotes are fucked by antihoming.. and the other is a homing beam. I haven't shot it at seraphs, but I believe its safe to assume that homing beams won't hit an antihoming unit.
Winty God Poster
Posts : 8419 Join date : 2011-06-12 Location : california
Subject: Re: Most random thing you've seen or done today on CB? Fri Apr 03, 2015 3:18 pm
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(I'm considering: Great Force Alpha / High Force Alpha / Great Rapid Alpha to quicken the projectiles and increase each of their force from 7 to 9.)
Might not be the best idea. As always, there are two range values on weapons, the lockon range and the despawn range. tuning -range or +range actually affects both these numbers. Putting too much -range on her will make them start to despawn sooner, so depending on how much range you are locking on from they may simply vanish before hitting the target. As they are homing weapons they will also lose "chase" ability when people move out of lockon range of whatever you are locking onto people with. Depends on how far away you'll be shooting from, really.
yes, antihoming destroys her, but she has a big enough threat range to have things to shoot at anyway.
AnTi90d Grand Poster
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Subject: Re: Most random thing you've seen or done today on CB? Fri Apr 03, 2015 4:30 pm
Ah, fuck.. Good point.. I had not considered the despawn range. Those tunes would make the beams have 240ish range and her bats are 280. I probably shouldn't reduce the beams to less than the bats' range.
She's a really cool looking unit with a unique WB and a remote weapon to alpha with. (She looks even more awesome with a Heavy Felchas BS.. it turns her silhouette into a pentagram.) I want to build her into an alpha that's at least halfway practical. Not having any defense against antihoming bothers me, though. I really hate not being able to hit someone.. especially if its someone that I like to shoot. I may try different loadouts with beamgun mods / crystal beamgun mods / something similar.)
Relict? [Moderator]
Posts : 5786 Join date : 2011-02-08 Age : 31 Location : San Diego
Subject: Re: Most random thing you've seen or done today on CB? Fri Apr 03, 2015 5:50 pm
Rukoko has his with CBC mod to fight antohoming. Other people have her GRange Magnet Gun to increase her zoning. It really depends. Just remember she likes capacity tunes.
AnTi90d Grand Poster
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Subject: Re: Most random thing you've seen or done today on CB? Fri Apr 03, 2015 6:24 pm
Relict? wrote:
Just remember she likes capacity tunes.
I have 9 100% cosmos. Fattening her up was already in my game-plan.
(Two of them are earmarked for Zero Breaker because I want to make a Zero Stepping Machintlet Arm bot.)
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Subject: Re: Most random thing you've seen or done today on CB? Fri Apr 03, 2015 7:44 pm
Just finished another challenge cube, and I got a Magical Feather from it! Yay! Just what one of my robots needed!
Also, I rolled and I got Robin Hunter. Is he any good?
Samui Armed Teddy
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Subject: Re: Most random thing you've seen or done today on CB? Fri Apr 03, 2015 11:35 pm
I've yet to try that bot but I hear that his AMs work well with Synoris BD for Alpha-striking if I'm not mistaken.
aosepsa 용개형 보고있지? EE!!
Posts : 1595 Join date : 2013-11-26
Subject: Re: Most random thing you've seen or done today on CB? Sat Apr 04, 2015 2:48 am
Astral_Dono wrote:
Spoiler:
Tutoring LD pubbies why stun recovery is superior most of the time.
Stun Recovery may benefit from running away from heavy projectile spams when you use on hit-and-run type bots, though it doesn't always guarantee your chance of escape.
What Stun Recovery gets most benefit is when you burst down and fight with melees, while fighting against other melees to take advantage with CC+ and hit faster to counter back.
Last Stand, most of time, gives more opportunity to run away and get healed at back by abusing the 3 second invincibility.
But since the animation nerf and debuff status does not get erased right away, you will be vulnerable against "Melt", which even ticks right after Last Stand kicks in, procing an instant death.
Kuzuha What Abbey Get
Posts : 2441 Join date : 2011-10-03 Location : Philippines
Subject: Re: Most random thing you've seen or done today on CB? Sat Apr 04, 2015 5:29 am
Reject support also seals Last Stand or revive buffs.
aosepsa 용개형 보고있지? EE!!
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Subject: Re: Most random thing you've seen or done today on CB? Sat Apr 04, 2015 5:42 am
Kuzuha wrote:
Reject support also seals Last Stand or revive buffs.
This "Melt kills Last Stand" mechanism came later when Last Stand got nerfed after, not before.
Support Rejection already does the trick since Day 1 of Drive carts came out
on topic...:
Isdelft Adept Poster
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Subject: Re: Most random thing you've seen or done today on CB? Sun Apr 05, 2015 6:20 am
Spoiler:
just waste all my remaining condoms/harmonics to tune , but still not complete(2 more tunes)
YukiZero Regular Poster
Posts : 342 Join date : 2014-11-08 Location : Turkey
Subject: Re: Most random thing you've seen or done today on CB? Sun Apr 05, 2015 6:24 am
Isdelft wrote:
Spoiler:
just waste all my remaining condoms/harmonics to tune , but still not complete(2 more tunes)
WHY THE FUCK CS PUTS LİKE 7-8 TGH TO MELEE BOTS
Relict? [Moderator]
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Subject: Re: Most random thing you've seen or done today on CB? Sun Apr 05, 2015 6:46 am
To activate Clearance more easily :^ )
YukiZero Regular Poster
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Subject: Re: Most random thing you've seen or done today on CB? Sun Apr 05, 2015 7:25 am
Relict? wrote:
To activate Clearance more easily :^ )
yeah you can use your clearance after getting killed
Winty God Poster
Posts : 8419 Join date : 2011-06-12 Location : california
Subject: Re: Most random thing you've seen or done today on CB? Sun Apr 05, 2015 8:19 am
YukiZero wrote:
Isdelft wrote:
Spoiler:
just waste all my remaining condoms/harmonics to tune , but still not complete(2 more tunes)
WHY THE FUCK CS PUTS LİKE 7-8 TGH TO MELEE BOTS
to discourage you from playing like a retard and diving into the middle of the enemy team with every unit you make. god forbid they try to discourage all melees from being played the exact same way.
Fuwakomoriya Police Is Watching You
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Subject: Re: Most random thing you've seen or done today on CB? Sun Apr 05, 2015 8:36 am
YukiZero wrote:
Relict? wrote:
To activate Clearance more easily :^ )
yeah you can use your clearance after getting killed
You suck at this game.
YukiZero Regular Poster
Posts : 342 Join date : 2014-11-08 Location : Turkey
Subject: Re: Most random thing you've seen or done today on CB? Sun Apr 05, 2015 8:39 am
Fuwakomoriya wrote:
YukiZero wrote:
Relict? wrote:
To activate Clearance more easily :^ )
yeah you can use your clearance after getting killed
You suck at this game.
thx
winty:
to discourage you from playing like a retard and diving into the middle of the enemy team with every unit you make. god forbid they try to discourage all melees from being played the exact same way.
so you say you got a chance against *stunthefuckoutofyou* bots ı mean if you are going to put 7-8 tgh to melee bots at least do thyis to all of them
Winty God Poster
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Subject: Re: Most random thing you've seen or done today on CB? Sun Apr 05, 2015 8:46 am
lower tgh bots are either meant to avoid direct engagements or fight other melee with their special abilities. lilu in particular was made at a time when the game had an ivis problem, and her support reject clears ivis self-CV(and thus nerfs her melee) so it's pretty clear she isn't supposed to fight those "stunthefuckoutofyou" bots. other melees are, that's why they have more tgh. Giving them all the same base stats would eliminate the point of them having different intended roles.
YukiZero Regular Poster
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Subject: Re: Most random thing you've seen or done today on CB? Sun Apr 05, 2015 9:08 am
Winty wrote:
lower tgh bots are either meant to avoid direct engagements or fight other melee with their special abilities. lilu in particular was made at a time when the game had an ivis problem, and her support reject clears ivis self-CV(and thus nerfs her melee) so it's pretty clear she isn't supposed to fight those "stunthefuckoutofyou" bots. other melees are, that's why they have more tgh. Giving them all the same base stats would eliminate the point of them having different intended roles.
sooo what about kururu she just gives slow turn
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