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PostSubject: Types of weapons and what they specialize in   Types of weapons and what they specialize in EmptyMon Sep 09, 2013 1:09 pm

I looked around for what each weapon type (Heatgun, vulcan, elec gun, railgun, axe, dagger, sword, blade, etc.) specializes in and their quirks, but I couldn't find anything like that. So, I'd like to try putting together something that would do that.
Something that would give general ratings to their stats.... like

Rifle
Type: Shell
Force:★★☆☆☆
Ammo:★★☆☆☆
Range:★★★★☆
Speed:★★★★☆
Interval:★★☆☆☆
Quirks: None

or something.
Problem is I don't know (all) the weapon types, nor do I know enough about all the weapons to grade them. And then, of course, I'd have to come up with a base number range for 3 stars. Can you all help with this endeavor? Please?
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PostSubject: Re: Types of weapons and what they specialize in   Types of weapons and what they specialize in EmptyMon Sep 09, 2013 2:55 pm

It'd be better if you made a ranking system... Probably based on Damage/Second Damage/OverTGH Damage/OverTGH/Second or somethin like that.

gotta be a substantial amount of data first though, before anything.

Type has mixtures too.
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PostSubject: Re: Types of weapons and what they specialize in   Types of weapons and what they specialize in EmptyTue Sep 10, 2013 10:33 am

Magnum
Type: Shell
Force: ★★★★★
Ammo: ★★★★★
Range: ★★★★★
Speed: ★★★★★
Interval: ★★★★★
Quirks: Best
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PostSubject: Re: Types of weapons and what they specialize in   Types of weapons and what they specialize in EmptyTue Sep 10, 2013 10:35 am

Like this?

Bazooka
Type: Explosive
Force:★★★★☆
Ammo:★★☆☆☆
Range:★★★★☆
Speed:★★☆☆☆
Interval:★★★☆☆
Quirks: Slow but powerful non-tracking weapon.
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PostSubject: Re: Types of weapons and what they specialize in   Types of weapons and what they specialize in EmptyTue Sep 10, 2013 2:08 pm

Please add Size: to your evaluation.

Heracles Beetlegun
Type: Shell
Size: ★★★★★
Force:★★★★★
Ammo:★★★★☆
Range:★★★☆☆
Speed:★★★★☆
Interval:★★★☆☆

Quirks: Ultimately hands down the best bullet based gun in the game. High hittability, the bullets are the size of a mini bazooka and high stunrate. Downside, need at least one ammopack to last a whole match even if it has 150 ammo and the gun itself cost alot of capa.
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PostSubject: Re: Types of weapons and what they specialize in   Types of weapons and what they specialize in EmptyTue Sep 10, 2013 2:37 pm

@Solryu wrote:
Please add Size: to your evaluation.

Heracles Beetlegun
Type: Shell
Size: ★★★★★
Force:★★★★★
Ammo:★★★★☆
Range:★★★☆☆
Speed:★★★★☆
Interval:★★★☆☆

Quirks: Ultimately hands down the best bullet based gun in the game. High hittability, the bullets are the size of a mini bazooka and high stunrate. Downside, need at least one ammopack to last a whole match even if it has 150 ammo and the gun itself cost alot of capa.
Berg clustergun is better since it has 10 force x5 and it splits up at a certain distance from its' target rather than randomly spreading.
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PostSubject: Re: Types of weapons and what they specialize in   Types of weapons and what they specialize in EmptyTue Sep 10, 2013 3:38 pm

lets make the rules :
main weapon :
force :
5 - 13  = 1 star.
14 - 18  = 2 star
19 - 25  = 3 star
26 - 39  = 4 star
40 or more = 5 star

range :
100 - 150 = 1 star
160 - 200 = 2 star
210 - 300 = 3 star
310 - 400 = 4 star
410 - more = 5 star

speed :
100 - 190 = 1 star
200 - 290 = 2 star
300 - 390 = 3 star
400 - 490 = 4 star
500 - 600 or more = 5 star

ammo :
100 or less = 1 star
150 - 200 = 2 star
210 - 300 = 3 star
310 - 400 = 4 star
410 - 500 or more = 5 star

Interval :
sry i dont know about interval...... koi please help.


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PostSubject: Re: Types of weapons and what they specialize in   Types of weapons and what they specialize in EmptyTue Sep 10, 2013 3:58 pm

looks fine to me. what about less than 10force? like psyguns. 0 stars?
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PostSubject: Re: Types of weapons and what they specialize in   Types of weapons and what they specialize in EmptyTue Sep 10, 2013 4:03 pm

@Yokura wrote:
looks fine to me. what about less than 10force? like psyguns. 0 stars?
5 - 10 forces is 1 star.

btw thank you remind me there is 5 forces main weapon existed in game.

exept Tonitrus Core ( 4 forces main weapon core ),  because it shoot 4 homing lazer that mean count as 16 forces (4+4+4+4= 16 forces).

other sample :
1. aquila girl core 7 forces main weapon, shoot 5 homing blaster at onces ( 7+7+7+7+7 = 35 forces ).
2. costum shoot gun.
3. and other spread shoot main weapon.

you want to count 1 forces as 1 star ? Lulz lol!
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PostSubject: Re: Types of weapons and what they specialize in   Types of weapons and what they specialize in EmptyTue Sep 10, 2013 6:18 pm

Cobra76 wrote:
lets make the rules :
ammo :
100 or less = 1 star
150 - 200 = 2 star
So what happens to 101 - 149? 1.5 star?
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PostSubject: Re: Types of weapons and what they specialize in   Types of weapons and what they specialize in EmptyTue Sep 10, 2013 9:35 pm

Drawguns are 2 force, single hit

Also, I think that ammo should be a ratio of clips to ammo size and should probibly take into account guns that use more than one ammo per shot.  Your scheme gives Huge Gatling Mod a 5 star score in ammo, and it's ammo is so bad it is unplayable.  Value = ammo/(clip size * ammo per shot) or something
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PostSubject: Re: Types of weapons and what they specialize in   Types of weapons and what they specialize in EmptyTue Sep 10, 2013 9:53 pm

Hum.

Basically something like this.

Code:

TYPE : Shell/Blast/Beam/ALL
FORCE :
AMMO :
RANGE :
RAPID :
INTERVAL :

Bullet Size (For Guns) : 1 Star to Beam Machine Gun's Bullet -> 5 Star to Lily Rain EVE's Level 3 Shot / Titan Bazooka shell.
Arm Reach (For Melee) : 1 Star to a Short Sword -> 5 Star to a Jet Accel BS.
Blast Range (For both types) : 1 Star for Accel Gun -> 5 Star to Resha's Vox Altus.
Damage / Sec : 1 Star to Short Sword -> 5 Star to Charge Beam Cannon / Double Beam Machine Gun... etc.

Stun Rate : 1 Star to Beam Gun -> 5 Star to Paralyzer.
Quirks : Penetrate, Shield Ignore, Breaker, Paralyze, Turn Stun, Disorder, Slow, Shock, and more.
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PostSubject: Re: Types of weapons and what they specialize in   Types of weapons and what they specialize in EmptyThu Sep 12, 2013 11:23 am

it would propably make alot more sense to compare weaponstats to other weapons of the same or similar types

so, while heracles beetlegun would propably rate 3 to 4 stars when compared with certain bazookas or lily eve projectiles, it will easily be 5 stars when compared with other gun type weaponry

for bulletspeed it would propably make sense to rate it as a range/speed ratio (or do this as an extra criteria)
there are some other things to rate, too. but i think these two will be rather easy to judge and will be easy to compare (contrary to some other stuff like bulletsize/bulletsway ratio)
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PostSubject: Re: Types of weapons and what they specialize in   Types of weapons and what they specialize in EmptyThu Sep 12, 2013 11:46 am

i do not understand why we are rating stats that are public information. Everyone can see the force stat of a given weapon. Changing a number to a set of stars makes the information less accurate, not more. I fail to see the point in those kinds of things.

Now, gauging weapon deviation, shell size, damage distribution, and other "hidden" stats is a more more valuable use of time.
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PostSubject: Re: Types of weapons and what they specialize in   Types of weapons and what they specialize in EmptyThu Sep 12, 2013 11:57 pm

what we need is a weapon data like the one c21 used

-bullet per shot
-clip
-charge time
-reload/cooldown time
-time needed for a lock
-weapon special attribute eg: shock, pierce allies, pierce all and other

I'm interested on the hidden stat too, some of it is homing time limit
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PostSubject: Re: Types of weapons and what they specialize in   Types of weapons and what they specialize in EmptyFri Sep 13, 2013 4:17 am

How about accuracy?
...heck, why don't we just tabulate every single weapon present in the game.
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PostSubject: Re: Types of weapons and what they specialize in   Types of weapons and what they specialize in EmptyFri Sep 13, 2013 9:34 am

@LazFlamme wrote:
How about accuracy?
...heck, why don't we just tabulate every single weapon present in the game.
we'd need somewhere to put it all.... google docs sounds good... but which one? o_o. Calc/Spreadsheet or Word/TextEditor (so we can add images)...
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PostSubject: Re: Types of weapons and what they specialize in   Types of weapons and what they specialize in EmptyFri Sep 13, 2013 10:51 pm

@LazFlamme wrote:
How about accuracy?
...heck, why don't we just tabulate every single weapon present in the game.
Speaking of Accuracy, There's a few things I'd like to address.
Spread, moving spread and, like, speed-to-range ratio.
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PostSubject: Re: Types of weapons and what they specialize in   Types of weapons and what they specialize in EmptyMon Sep 16, 2013 7:50 am

@rei_hunter wrote:
google docs sounds good... but which one? o_o.
Spreadsheet works well. Adding images isn't a problem anyway.
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