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| | Subject: Re: Pokemon discussion Sat Feb 09, 2013 1:31 pm | |
| - Valkyrie wrote:
- Relict? wrote:
- Astral_Goddess wrote:
- You're forgetting how Terrakion also has insane speed, while also having decent SP DEF and DEF. If you pair it with a Tyrannitar, it's SP DEF is raised even higher, essentially making Terrakion a massive, barreling truck.
One strategy I like to use is having a Ninjask constantly use Protect/Substitute while raising it's SPEED. Then once I have the SPEED stat maxed, I'll use Baton Pass and switch out for one of my high ATK pokemon (Usually Terrakion).
Terrakion is used often enough on HO teams.
I'd watch out for Roar/Whirlwind, Haze, and Unaware, but they don't see much use.
I predict he will enter uber tier soon. ( He really should, if they've already sent stuff like Garchomp and Blaziken there. Heck even regenerator Tornadus has been sent there o.o ) Then again he's countered by stuff like Slowbro, Gliscor, Mew, Jellicent, Reuniclus, Hippowdon, Scizor, Azumarill, Conkeldurr, Latios, Tornadus, Gengar, Starmie, Dugtrio, Wobbuffet, and choice scarf Rotom-w and Landorus. Oddly enough the best counters are in the lower tiers.
Reli, roar and whirlwind are often used for stall teams and racking up passive damage (tho prankster taunt makes the choice shift to dragon tail).
Ah, yeah. Most people go with offensive teams, I think. | |
| | | | Seraphcrim
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| | Subject: Re: Pokemon discussion Sat Feb 09, 2013 2:25 pm | |
| PvE team for Platinum. Also, I like Eeveelutions. - Spoiler:
 Favourite Pokemon to date. Hail to annoy, Ice beam, Ice fang and Blizzard.  Combos well with my flareon's sunny day due to solar beam. Grasswhistle to annoy, Magical leaf for shits and leaf blade.  Sunny day, Overheat, Fire Blast, Fire Fang.  Acid Armor, Hydro Pump, Aurora Beam and Rain Dance(i think). Frankly i have no idea why i left Aurora Beam when i could take Aqua Ring for heals.  Thunder, Thunderbolt ,Thunder Fang, Thundershock or Thunderwave. Can't remember well. Fastest in team.  Second Fastest. Morning Sun, Shadow Ball, Psychic, Psybeam.
On a side note, i find that they are kinda unbalanced... Meh whatever, I only PvE most of the time anyway. PvP is with friends and family. (i usually win in double battle  ) (I should play Pokemon Online...) | |
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| | Subject: Re: Pokemon discussion Sat Feb 09, 2013 2:38 pm | |
| - Relict? wrote:
- Valkyrie wrote:
- Relict? wrote:
Terrakion is used often enough on HO teams.
I'd watch out for Roar/Whirlwind, Haze, and Unaware, but they don't see much use.
I predict he will enter uber tier soon. ( He really should, if they've already sent stuff like Garchomp and Blaziken there. Heck even regenerator Tornadus has been sent there o.o ) Then again he's countered by stuff like Slowbro, Gliscor, Mew, Jellicent, Reuniclus, Hippowdon, Scizor, Azumarill, Conkeldurr, Latios, Tornadus, Gengar, Starmie, Dugtrio, Wobbuffet, and choice scarf Rotom-w and Landorus. Oddly enough the best counters are in the lower tiers.
Reli, roar and whirlwind are often used for stall teams and racking up passive damage (tho prankster taunt makes the choice shift to dragon tail).
Ah, yeah. Most people go with offensive teams, I think. In my battles with Astral yesterday, I went with my usual team...mostly an Offensive 'Jammer' team...tons of negative status effects and flinch-possibilities to keep my opponent guessing what I'll come up with next!  What did you think, Astral? | |
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| | Subject: Re: Pokemon discussion Sat Feb 09, 2013 3:47 pm | |
| - Seraphcrim wrote:
- PvE team for Platinum. Also, I like Eeveelutions.
- Spoiler:
Favourite Pokemon to date. Hail to annoy, Ice beam, Ice fang and Blizzard. Combos well with my flareon's sunny day due to solar beam. Grasswhistle to annoy, Magical leaf for shits and leaf blade. Sunny day, Overheat, Fire Blast, Fire Fang. Acid Armor, Hydro Pump, Aurora Beam and Rain Dance(i think). Frankly i have no idea why i left Aurora Beam when i could take Aqua Ring for heals. Thunder, Thunderbolt ,Thunder Fang, Thundershock or Thunderwave. Can't remember well. Fastest in team. Second Fastest. Morning Sun, Shadow Ball, Psychic, Psybeam.
On a side note, i find that they are kinda unbalanced... Meh whatever, I only PvE most of the time anyway. PvP is with friends and family. (i usually win in double battle )
(I should play Pokemon Online...) I like the eveelutions, but I dislike that they were/are so underpowered. Most of them have shallow movepools (Flareon for example), and are usually limited to supporting roles (Batonpassers, notably). If X and Y were to be released, I hope they change that trend. | |
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| | Subject: Re: Pokemon discussion Sat Feb 09, 2013 3:50 pm | |
| - Seraphcrim wrote:
- PvE team for Platinum. Also, I like Eeveelutions.
- Spoiler:
Favourite Pokemon to date. Hail to annoy, Ice beam, Ice fang and Blizzard. Combos well with my flareon's sunny day due to solar beam. Grasswhistle to annoy, Magical leaf for shits and leaf blade. Sunny day, Overheat, Fire Blast, Fire Fang. Acid Armor, Hydro Pump, Aurora Beam and Rain Dance(i think). Frankly i have no idea why i left Aurora Beam when i could take Aqua Ring for heals. Thunder, Thunderbolt ,Thunder Fang, Thundershock or Thunderwave. Can't remember well. Fastest in team. Second Fastest. Morning Sun, Shadow Ball, Psychic, Psybeam.
On a side note, i find that they are kinda unbalanced... Meh whatever, I only PvE most of the time anyway. PvP is with friends and family. (i usually win in double battle )
(I should play Pokemon Online...) Flareon is in UU tier. He's useless imo. The only Eevelotuions I would consider using are probably Jolteon, Vaporeon, and Espeon. The rest are all NU afaik with Umbreon being UU. But I guess that's okay if you're playing with your family and whatnot. Good luck winning online though. | |
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| | Subject: Re: Pokemon discussion Sat Feb 09, 2013 4:48 pm | |
| You can grab the current simulator and loads of competitive information, strats, and metagame stats.
At: http://www.smogon.com/
I've been playing Random Battle on it. You get a random team with random levels and moves. Really fun. | |
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| | Subject: Re: Pokemon discussion Sat Feb 09, 2013 4:54 pm | |
| - Poppet wrote:
- You can grab the current simulator and loads of competitive information, strats, and metagame stats.
At: http://www.smogon.com/
I've been playing Random Battle on it. You get a random team with random levels and moves. Really fun. yeah I've been getting most competitive info from Smogon. I don't always agree with their tier list tho (Kyurem black wtf). | |
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| | Subject: Re: Pokemon discussion Sat Feb 09, 2013 5:10 pm | |
| - Valkyrie wrote:
- Poppet wrote:
- You can grab the current simulator and loads of competitive information, strats, and metagame stats.
At: http://www.smogon.com/
I've been playing Random Battle on it. You get a random team with random levels and moves. Really fun. yeah I've been getting most competitive info from Smogon. I don't always agree with their tier list tho (Kyurem black wtf). Dude his stats are insane They reach the 400s Sure he may not be good as an Uber. But he's going to DECIMATE the OU. | |
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| | Subject: Re: Pokemon discussion Sat Feb 09, 2013 5:16 pm | |
| - Mew wrote:
- Valkyrie wrote:
- Poppet wrote:
- You can grab the current simulator and loads of competitive information, strats, and metagame stats.
At: http://www.smogon.com/
I've been playing Random Battle on it. You get a random team with random levels and moves. Really fun. yeah I've been getting most competitive info from Smogon. I don't always agree with their tier list tho (Kyurem black wtf).
Dude his stats are insane
They reach the 400s
Sure he may not be good as an Uber.
But he's going to DECIMATE the OU. What I actually meant to say is: why is it in OU when it should be in Uber? | |
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| | Subject: Re: Pokemon discussion Sat Feb 09, 2013 5:41 pm | |
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| | Subject: Re: Pokemon discussion Sat Feb 09, 2013 5:43 pm | |
| - Mew wrote:
- He's not in OU. ._.
He is.... Both Smogon and PO voted it down from Uber to OU. Google it. | |
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| | Subject: Re: Pokemon discussion Sat Feb 09, 2013 6:00 pm | |
| - Valkyrie wrote:
- Mew wrote:
- Valkyrie wrote:
yeah I've been getting most competitive info from Smogon. I don't always agree with their tier list tho (Kyurem black wtf).
Dude his stats are insane
They reach the 400s
Sure he may not be good as an Uber.
But he's going to DECIMATE the OU. What I actually meant to say is: why is it in OU when it should be in Uber? That typing though, and it's nowhere near as dangerous as a generic sweeper. Still doesn't feel right in OU. | |
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| | Subject: Re: Pokemon discussion Sat Feb 09, 2013 6:24 pm | |
| - Poppet wrote:
- Valkyrie wrote:
- Mew wrote:
Dude his stats are insane
They reach the 400s
Sure he may not be good as an Uber.
But he's going to DECIMATE the OU. What I actually meant to say is: why is it in OU when it should be in Uber?
That typing though, and it's nowhere near as dangerous as a generic sweeper.
Still doesn't feel right in OU. The real reason he got put into OU is because PO and Smogon deemed that his physical movepool isn't big enough to deem him as a threat (I googled around and people cried that Smogon hates Ice types lol). My favorite typing is Dragon, but I think this is a bit unjust.
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| | Subject: Re: Pokemon discussion Sat Feb 09, 2013 7:57 pm | |
| - Valkyrie wrote:
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- He's not in OU. ._.
He is....
Both Smogon and PO voted it down from Uber to OU. Google it. Oh he is? Weird, nobody has made a guide for him yet then. And if I can get my hands on my DS right now I'd check if he's unbanned off Wi-Fi battles but I can't find it. (He probably still is.) The only reasoning I can think of is because his type. Kyurem himself was always so-so. I actually have Black 2 and most of his movesets really don't take advantage of his ATK. My Black Kyurem is geared towards SP. ATK. W-Kyurem is superior in almost every way possible. | |
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| | Subject: Re: Pokemon discussion Tue Feb 12, 2013 3:20 pm | |
| Good news, good news~ There will be a new BW2 Global Link Event, starting from 20 mars till 6 may. A multiscale Dragonite, with the move thunderpunch will be given.  A new pokemon of X&Y has been released. It's a new eveelution! - Spoiler:
She's so adorable~ Her type hasn't been confirmed yet (I can't figure from the pic), nor has the way of evolution been released. | |
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| | Subject: Re: Pokemon discussion Tue Feb 12, 2013 3:52 pm | |
| - Valkyrie wrote:
- Good news, good news~
There will be a new BW2 Global Link Event, starting from 20 mars till 6 may. A multiscale Dragonite, with the move thunderpunch will be given.
A new pokemon of X&Y has been released. It's a new eveelution!
- Spoiler:
She's so adorable~ Her type hasn't been confirmed yet (I can't figure from the pic), nor has the way of evolution been released. Hmm.... *looks carefully at the Eveelution pic* ...well, we can rule out Steel, Flying, Ground, Fighting, and Rock simply by appearance...if I had to guess, I'd say it's a more 'natural' Normal-type evolution...but we've been surprised before.... | |
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| | Subject: Re: Pokemon discussion Tue Feb 12, 2013 4:53 pm | |
| - CapeMike wrote:
- Valkyrie wrote:
- Good news, good news~
There will be a new BW2 Global Link Event, starting from 20 mars till 6 may. A multiscale Dragonite, with the move thunderpunch will be given.
A new pokemon of X&Y has been released. It's a new eveelution!
- Spoiler:
She's so adorable~ Her type hasn't been confirmed yet (I can't figure from the pic), nor has the way of evolution been released.
Hmm.... *looks carefully at the Eveelution pic*
...well, we can rule out Steel, Flying, Ground, Fighting, and Rock simply by appearance...if I had to guess, I'd say it's a more 'natural' Normal-type evolution...but we've been surprised before.... I actuallly expected steel or fighting. Dragon and Flying would be odd, as it wouldn't be the same as that typical eveelution look the eveelutions share. | |
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| | Subject: Re: Pokemon discussion Tue Feb 12, 2013 5:20 pm | |
| - Valkyrie wrote:
- Good news, good news~
There will be a new BW2 Global Link Event, starting from 20 mars till 6 may. A multiscale Dragonite, with the move thunderpunch will be given.
A new pokemon of X&Y has been released. It's a new eveelution!
- Spoiler:
She's so adorable~ Her type hasn't been confirmed yet (I can't figure from the pic), nor has the way of evolution been released. WOW MY 3DS WOULD BE BROKEN RIGHT NOW. It's not like it matter anyways, I'm too poor to have B2/W2 anyways ;w;. | |
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| | Subject: Re: Pokemon discussion Tue Feb 12, 2013 5:42 pm | |
| My opinion about that new pokemon is in the spoilers, since it talks a bit about it. - Spoiler:
I'd say Flying due to the floating scarfs simbolizing air currents. It's a type that could go well for an Eevee evolution. The other alternative is Bug due to the butterfly ribbons, but those ribbons can also support the Flying type due to the wings.
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| | Subject: Re: Pokemon discussion Tue Feb 12, 2013 6:46 pm | |
| - Koiro10 wrote:
- Valkyrie wrote:
- Good news, good news~
There will be a new BW2 Global Link Event, starting from 20 mars till 6 may. A multiscale Dragonite, with the move thunderpunch will be given.
A new pokemon of X&Y has been released. It's a new eveelution!
- Spoiler:
She's so adorable~ Her type hasn't been confirmed yet (I can't figure from the pic), nor has the way of evolution been released. WOW MY 3DS WOULD BE BROKEN RIGHT NOW. It's not like it matter anyways, I'm too poor to have B2/W2 anyways ;w;. New Eeveelution is known as Nymphia (AKA, most likely will be called Nympheon) Nothing about it has really been released aside from height and weight x_x... | |
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| | Subject: Re: Pokemon discussion Tue Feb 12, 2013 11:49 pm | |
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| | Subject: Re: Pokemon discussion Wed Feb 13, 2013 12:25 am | |
| - Akhenderson wrote:
- Koiro10 wrote:
- Valkyrie wrote:
- Good news, good news~
There will be a new BW2 Global Link Event, starting from 20 mars till 6 may. A multiscale Dragonite, with the move thunderpunch will be given.
A new pokemon of X&Y has been released. It's a new eveelution!
- Spoiler:
She's so adorable~ Her type hasn't been confirmed yet (I can't figure from the pic), nor has the way of evolution been released. WOW MY 3DS WOULD BE BROKEN RIGHT NOW. It's not like it matter anyways, I'm too poor to have B2/W2 anyways ;w;. New Eeveelution is known as Nymphia (AKA, most likely will be called Nympheon)
Nothing about it has really been released aside from height and weight x_x... How is it Nymphia? ニンフィア It's literally Ninfia. フィア should give it away well i guess you could argue that phia = fia | |
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| | Subject: Re: Pokemon discussion Wed Feb 13, 2013 1:23 am | |
| Two of my nicer random battles if anyone is interested in watching some.
http://www.pokemonshowdown.com/replay/randombattle9595473
http://www.pokemonshowdown.com/replay/randombattle9700680
Anyone want to battle though? | |
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| | Subject: Re: Pokemon discussion Wed Feb 13, 2013 2:07 am | |
| Oh, shit...maybe this weekend.
EDIT: so wait are these challenge cup matches? | |
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| | Subject: Re: Pokemon discussion Wed Feb 13, 2013 6:12 am | |
| - Mew wrote:
How is it Nymphia?
ニンフィア
It's literally Ninfia.
フィア
should give it away
well i guess you could argue that phia = fia
Yeah s | |
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