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+5Astral_Dono Fireflywater Relict? tehprognoob frankfrankfrank 9 posters |
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frankfrankfrank Newcomer
Posts : 9 Join date : 2012-09-06
| Subject: Please help with some arts I put together. Thu Nov 08, 2012 7:39 pm | |
| Such as Albatreos - Spoiler:
【Robot Name】 Albatreos
【Parts】 BD: Albatreos BD : Missile Bit(default) : Gaderoga LG [Crimson Veil] [Crimson Veil] [Great Capacity] : Dagomure BS [Eagle] [Eagle] [Eagle] : Dagomure BS@ : Paraboroid HD [Eagle] [Eagle] [Eagle] : C.S. Clips B [Eagle] : Mini Crim [Eagle] : Moulin BSJ [Eagle] : Dagomure BS [Eagle] [Eagle] [Eagle] : Dagomure BS@ : Victory AM [High Boost Beta] [High Boost Beta] [Life] : - : -
【Config Check】 COST: OK BS: OK LG: OK
【Stats】 TYPE: 砲 SIZE: L COST: 1360 CAPA: 1360 HP: 744 STR: 2 TEC: 24 WLK: 9 FLY: 35 TGH: 10
LEVEL: 9
【Cartridges】 Capacity +70×6 Enhance Internal Weapon×2 Moving Burst Accele Roll
【必要素材】 Hidora Cosmos×100 Fudara Cosmos×43 Midoro Cosmos×72 Yoguru Cosmos×30 Red Chip×10 Blue Chip×20 Yellow Chip×10 Green Chip×20 Rainbow Chip×60 Power Amp×600 Engine Shaft×600 Turbo Charger×262 Physical Stone×117 Rapid Crystal×600 Drum Magazine×6 Hard Plate×100 Hulk Meteorite×200 Screw Bolts×540 Steel Wheel×444 Miracle Ammonite×140 Shining Feather×140
and this - Spoiler:
【Robot Name】 Albatreos
【Parts】 BD: Sieg BD : Missile Bit(default) : Thoarla LG [Clearance] [Great Capacity] [Clearance] : Dagomure BS [Tank] [Tank] [Tank] : Dagomure BS@ : Paraboroid HD [Tank] [High Run Alpha] [High Run Alpha] : Chinese Crown [Tank] : Mini Lily [Tank] : Moulin BSJ [High Run Alpha] : Dagomure BS [High Run Alpha] [High Run Alpha] [High Run Alpha] : Dagomure BS@ : Beezle AM [Tank] [High Tech Beta] [High Tech Beta] : - : Beezle AM [High Tech Beta] [High Tech Beta] [Great Tech] : - : Sieg BD@
【Config Check】 COST: OK BS: OK LG: OK
【Stats】 TYPE: 砲 SIZE: M COST: 1250 CAPA: 1260 HP: 522 STR: 1 TEC: 37 WLK: 30 FLY: -1 TGH: 7
LEVEL: 10
【Cartridges】 Capacity +70×6 Enhance Internal Weapon×2 Sway Broad Radar
【必要素材】 Fudara Cosmos×10 Midoro Cosmos×48 Yoguru Cosmos×20 Red Chip×20 Blue Chip×20 Green Chip×100 Rainbow Chip×60 Power Amp×600 Stabilizer×41 Engine Shaft×801 Scope Lens×15 Rapid Crystal×700 Guide Circuit×27 Snail Liquid×42 Hulk Meteorite×300 Screw Bolts×440 Steel Wheel×384 Miracle Ammonite×100 Shining Feather×100 Handa Cosmos×2
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tehprognoob Ace Poster
Posts : 1712 Join date : 2011-07-22 Age : 28
| Subject: Re: Please help with some arts I put together. Thu Nov 08, 2012 7:50 pm | |
| 1. 35 FLY; the meaningful FLY breakpoints are 28, 31, 34 and 38.
2. On the second build, -1 FLY and 30 WLK sway. Non-LND WLK breaks at 35, and even that is extremely slow given the WLK bonus that LNDs have.
3. No +1 stat pompoms/equivalents
4. G. Capacity
5. Double Dagomure BS, 3-weapon alpha, with no handhelds | |
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Relict? [Moderator]
Posts : 5786 Join date : 2011-02-08 Age : 31 Location : San Diego
| Subject: Re: Please help with some arts I put together. Thu Nov 08, 2012 7:58 pm | |
| Alright, let's see what we got... Do you really need all that HP? Just don't be stupid. You also don't even have 40 TEC. And two Dagomure boosters? One's enough, if you must use it. 34 FLY is a breakpoint. - first art:
【Robot Name、EAlbatreos
【Parts、EBD�E�E�E�E�E�E�E�EAlbatreos BD �E�E�E�E�E�E�E�ESword Bit �E�E�E�E�E�E�E�EMach Knight LG [Crimson Veil] [Crimson Veil] �E�E�E�E�E�E�E�EMach Knight HD2 [High Tech Beta] [High Tech Beta] [Ranger] �E�E�E�E�E�E�E�ECute Beret �E�E�E�E�E�E�E�EAce of Hearts Earrings �E�E�E�E�E�E�E�EDagomure BS [High Boost Beta] [High Boost Beta] [High Tech Beta] �E�E�E�E�E�E�E�EDagomure BS@ �E�E�E�E�E�E�E�EAccel Saber AM [High Boost Beta] [High Boost Beta] [High Boost Beta] �E�E�E�E�E�E�E�ECheer Pom-pon [High Boost Beta] [High Tech Alpha] [Ranger] �E�E�E�E�E�E�E�EAccel Saber AM [High Boost Beta] [High Boost Beta] [High Boost Beta] �E�E�E�E�E�E�E�E-
【Config Check、ECOST�E�E�E�E�E�E�E�EOK BS�E�E�E�E�E�E�E�EOK LG�E�E�E�E�E�E�E�EOK
【Stats、ETYPE�E�E�E�E�E�E�E�E砲 SIZE�E�E�E�E�E�E�E�EL COST�E�E�E�E�E�E�E�E1160 CAPA�E�E�E�E�E�E�E�E1165 HP�E�E�E�E�E�E�E�E495 STR�E�E�E�E�E�E�E�E-7 TEC�E�E�E�E�E�E�E�E40 WLK�E�E�E�E�E�E�E�E1 FLY�E�E�E�E�E�E�E�E34 TGH�E�E�E�E�E�E�E�E12
LEVEL�E�E�E�E�E�E�E�E10
【Cartridges、ECapacity +70ÁE Enhance Internal WeaponÁE Stun Regain Float Dash Broad Radar
>WLK based art I wouldn't recommend it... Sieg's BD also has trouble hitting anything grounded...pack something to do with LNDs, like Slice Gun or Alba HD or Double Magnet Gun or Middle Bazooka or Double Bazooka or something. EDIT: Prog beat me to it. About number 3: Sometimes you just don't have room for pompons and shit like that. But it'd be good here. | |
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frankfrankfrank Newcomer
Posts : 9 Join date : 2012-09-06
| Subject: Re: Please help with some arts I put together. Thu Nov 08, 2012 8:19 pm | |
| 1. I thought I little bit more fly might always help.
2. I think negative fly doesn't really affect sway? I'm not sure. I guess I could get to 35 wlk if I don't use clearance.
3. I'm already rather tight an capa.
4. What's wrong with gcapas?
5.I don't need handhelds. Maybe double dagamore bs might not be very good for sieg because of he is not very good as alpha but even one dagomure bs stuns airs so hard that at higher tec you don't really notice much change in damage. So all I really could tune was hp and fly. With 2xCV on the albatreos I wanted as much hp as possible. | |
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tehprognoob Ace Poster
Posts : 1712 Join date : 2011-07-22 Age : 28
| Subject: Re: Please help with some arts I put together. Thu Nov 08, 2012 8:23 pm | |
| Nigga 522 HP isn't a lot at all - Spoiler:
【Robot Name】 Albatreos
【Parts】 BD: Albatreos BD : Missile Bit(default) : Thoarla LG [Capacity] [Clearance] [Clearance] : Maril March BS : Aquila Airs HD [High Tech Beta] [EX Tech] : Hana Kanzashi : Ace of Hearts Earrings : Maril March BS [Ranger] [High Tech Alpha] [High Tech Beta] : Air Raider AM [Ranger] [Ranger] : Slice Gun [Great Force Beta] [Great Force Beta] [Force] : Air Raider AM [High Boost Beta] [High Boost Beta] [High Boost Beta] : Dancing Maracas [High Boost Beta] [High Boost Beta] [High Boost Beta]
【Config Check】 COST: OK BS: OK LG: OK
【Stats】 TYPE: 砲 SIZE: L COST: 1290 CAPA: 1290 HP: 549 STR: -11 TEC: 40 WLK: 1 FLY: 38 TGH: 17
LEVEL: 10
【Cartridges】 Capacity +70×6 Enhance Internal Weapon×2 Float Dash Broad Radar Accele Roll
【必要素材】 Hidora Cosmos×101 Fudara Cosmos×49 Midoro Cosmos×26 Yoguru Cosmos×10 Ones Cosmos×1 Threede Cosmos×2 Red Chip×50 Blue Chip×60 Yellow Chip×30 Green Chip×30 Rainbow Chip×30 Power Amp×200 Stabilizer×87 Turbo Charger×30 Physical Stone×150 Strike Metal×22 Rapid Crystal×100 Drum Magazine×18 Guide Circuit×13 Acid Gel×30 Hulk Meteorite×100 Screw Bolts×260 Steel Wheel×36 Miracle Ammonite×60 Shining Feather×60 Generic Element×1 Tech Element×5
EDIT: 0 FLY and you pretty much won't be able to get off the ground in any meaningful manner. LNDs will always outrun you, sway or not. Handhelds are there because alpha with 3 weapons isn't all that useful. And Paraboroid HD...there are better. I know that the build posted doesn't alpha but it's an example of what you can get with high mobility and high TEC | |
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frankfrankfrank Newcomer
Posts : 9 Join date : 2012-09-06
| Subject: Re: Please help with some arts I put together. Thu Nov 08, 2012 8:34 pm | |
| Well, I really don't need higher TEC as I stun airs too hard. Gettting 40 Tec may only increase damage done by 10ish compared to base stats. My main focus, as you may have guessed, is airs. As for sway, I don't want to outrun lands, although that may be a bonus, I want to keep up with airs long enough to hit them. - Spoiler:
【Robot Name】 Albatreos
【Parts】 BD: Sieg BD : Missile Bit(default) : Thoarla LG [Clearance] [Great Capacity] [Clearance] : Dagomure BS [Tank] [Tank] [Tank] : Dagomure BS@ : Paraboroid HD [Tank] [High Run Alpha] [High Run Alpha] : Chinese Crown [Tank] : Mini Lily [Tank] : Moulin BSJ [High Run Alpha] : Dagomure BS [High Run Alpha] [High Run Alpha] [High Run Alpha] : Dagomure BS@ : Beezle AM [Tank] [High Tech Beta] [High Tech Beta] : - : Beezle AM [Tank] [High Run Beta] [High Run Beta] : Dancing Maracas [Eagle] [Life] [Life] : Sieg BD@
【Config Check】 COST: OK BS: OK LG: OK
【Stats】 TYPE: 砲 SIZE: M COST: 1260 CAPA: 1260 HP: 582 STR: 3 TEC: 28 WLK: 35 FLY: 1 TGH: 7
LEVEL: 10
【Cartridges】 Capacity +70×6 Enhance Internal Weapon×2 Sway Short Boost
【必要素材】 Fudara Cosmos×12 Midoro Cosmos×49 Yoguru Cosmos×20 Red Chip×10 Blue Chip×30 Green Chip×100 Rainbow Chip×60 Power Amp×600 Stabilizer×10 Engine Shaft×832 Turbo Charger×21 Physical Stone×34 Rapid Crystal×700 Guide Circuit×6 Snail Liquid×48 Hulk Meteorite×300 Screw Bolts×480 Steel Wheel×408 Miracle Ammonite×100 Shining Feather×100 Handa Cosmos×2
Might this be better? | |
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Fireflywater Ace Poster
Posts : 1220 Join date : 2011-05-22 Age : 28 Location : The Undead Daily Garapon
| Subject: Re: Please help with some arts I put together. Thu Nov 08, 2012 8:50 pm | |
| - AND I RAAAAAAAAN:
I RAN SO FAR AWAAAAAAY
【Robot Name】 Albatreos
【Parts】 BD: Albatreos BD : Missile Bit(default) : Gaderoga LG [Great Capacity] [Great Capacity] [High Capacity] : Volcanics BS [High Boost] [High Boost] [EX Great Tech Alpha] : Geminion HD2 [High Run] [High Boost] [High Run] : Taoyamenokazari : Onibi : Volcanics BS [High Boost] [High Boost] [EX Great Tech Alpha] : Ragna Barrett AMJ [High Tech Alpha] : Vector AM [High Boost] [High Run] [High Run] : Fireflower [High Run] [EX Great Tech Alpha] [EX Great Tech Alpha] : Ragna Barrett AMJ [High Tech Alpha] : Vector AM [High Boost] [High Run] [High Run] : Fireflower [High Run] [EX Great Tech Alpha] [EX Great Tech Alpha]
【Config Check】 COST: OK BS: OK LG: OK
【Stats】 TYPE: 砲 SIZE: L COST: 1530 CAPA: 1535 HP: 664 STR: -12 TEC: 40 WLK: 40 FLY: 40 TGH: 12
LEVEL: 10
【Cartridges】 Capacity +70×6 Enhance Internal Weapon×2 Float Dash Boost Run Accele Roll
【Materials】 Fudara Cosmos×17 Midoro Cosmos×96 Yoguru Cosmos×45 Red Chip×140 Rainbow Chip×100 Power Amp×1600 Stabilizer×120 Engine Shaft×1704 Turbo Charger×91 Scope Lens×66 Rapid Crystal×1200 Drum Magazine×77 Guide Circuit×80 Snail Liquid×88 Prism Glass×200 Hulk Meteorite×400 Screw Bolts×600 Steel Wheel×700 Miracle Ammonite×240 Shining Feather×240 Generic Element×102 Superior Element×30 Tech Element×90
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tehprognoob Ace Poster
Posts : 1712 Join date : 2011-07-22 Age : 28
| Subject: Re: Please help with some arts I put together. Thu Nov 08, 2012 8:53 pm | |
| - frankfrankfrank wrote:
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Short Boost and Sway cancel each other As many times as it's been said I'll say again: TGH reduction More TEC mitigates the effects thereof. That IS better but Paraboroid HD is crappy for getting 0 free stats. G. Capacity is a waste in most cases except a few. Hitting with Sieg BD is already a pain in the ass; hitting from the GROUND is worse. I don't really know what you want Sway for because you'll get your ass eaten by melees, sway or not, especially the indos and mexicans who will simply lag through everything. High FLY and Accel Roll gets you away from them. Also non-LNDs' WLK is gimped and will always be slower than LND WLK, but FLY isn't affected by type, so that's another consideration. If you're doing a WLK build then might I suggest - Spoiler:
【Robot Name】 Sieg
【Parts】 BD: Sieg BD : Missile Bit(default) : Lazflamme LG [Crimson Veil] [Crimson Veil] [Ranger] : Cannon Baller BS [Ranger] [High Tech Alpha] [High Tech Alpha] : Frog Lander HD [Run] [Tank] [Tank] : Silver Headphones [Tank] : Ace of Hearts Earrings [Tank] : Cannon Baller BS [High Tech Alpha] [High Tech Alpha] [High Tech Alpha] : Build Arm AM [High Tech Alpha] [High Tech Alpha] [High Tech Alpha] : Cheer Pom-pon [EX High Run Alpha] [EX High Run Alpha] [High Run Alpha] : Build Arm AM [High Run Alpha] [High Run Alpha] [High Tech Alpha] : Cheer Pom-pon [EX High Run Alpha] [High Run Alpha] [High Run Alpha] : Sieg BD@
【Config Check】 COST: OK BS: OK LG: OK
【Stats】 TYPE: 砲 SIZE: M COST: 1070 CAPA: 1070 HP: 500 STR: -3 TEC: 40 WLK: 38 FLY: 1 TGH: 7
LEVEL: 10
【Cartridges】 Capacity +70×5 Enhance Internal Weapon×2 Sway Boost Run Broad Radar
【必要素材】 Hidora Cosmos×101 Fudara Cosmos×57 Midoro Cosmos×26 Yoguru Cosmos×10 Red Chip×90 Blue Chip×20 Green Chip×100 Rainbow Chip×20 Stabilizer×123 Engine Shaft×161 Physical Stone×100 Guide Circuit×63 Snail Liquid×56 Hard Plate×100 Screw Bolts×120 Steel Wheel×72 Miracle Ammonite×40 Shining Feather×40 Generic Element×36 Superior Element×9 Run Element×30
38/1 is orange tier boostrun already; you won't have much to farm with tbh, and you're stuck with that BD missile
@FIrefly stop trolling lol >100 rainbows *d although that's actually...kind of good...in a weird way EDIT: >Fataroga LG enjoy your infinite fatness www | |
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Astral_Dono 野獣先輩
Posts : 7875 Join date : 2011-06-10 Age : 30 Location : Mars
| Subject: Re: Please help with some arts I put together. Thu Nov 08, 2012 9:08 pm | |
| - tehprognoob wrote:
- EDIT: >Fataroga LG
enjoy your infinite fatness www I don't think that's going to matter when you can walk AND fly away from anything that comes at you. | |
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Asagi-san Regular Poster
Posts : 434 Join date : 2011-04-28 Age : 31 Location : The City of Angels, CA
| Subject: Re: Please help with some arts I put together. Thu Nov 08, 2012 9:58 pm | |
| - Astral_Goddess wrote:
- tehprognoob wrote:
- EDIT: >Fataroga LG
enjoy your infinite fatness www I don't think that's going to matter when you can walk AND fly away from anything that comes at you. Doesn't change the fact that you're the fattest thing around. | |
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| Subject: Re: Please help with some arts I put together. Thu Nov 08, 2012 11:17 pm | |
| - Fireflywater wrote:
- AND I RAAAAAAAAN:
I RAN SO FAR AWAAAAAAY
【Robot Name】 Albatreos
【Parts】 BD: Albatreos BD : Missile Bit(default) : Gaderoga LG [Great Capacity] [Great Capacity] [High Capacity] : Volcanics BS [High Boost] [High Boost] [EX Great Tech Alpha] : Geminion HD2 [High Run] [High Boost] [High Run] : Taoyamenokazari : Onibi : Volcanics BS [High Boost] [High Boost] [EX Great Tech Alpha] : Ragna Barrett AMJ [High Tech Alpha] : Vector AM [High Boost] [High Run] [High Run] : Fireflower [High Run] [EX Great Tech Alpha] [EX Great Tech Alpha] : Ragna Barrett AMJ [High Tech Alpha] : Vector AM [High Boost] [High Run] [High Run] : Fireflower [High Run] [EX Great Tech Alpha] [EX Great Tech Alpha]
【Config Check】 COST: OK BS: OK LG: OK
【Stats】 TYPE: 砲 SIZE: L COST: 1530 CAPA: 1535 HP: 664 STR: -12 TEC: 40 WLK: 40 FLY: 40 TGH: 12
LEVEL: 10
【Cartridges】 Capacity +70×6 Enhance Internal Weapon×2 Float Dash Boost Run Accele Roll
【Materials】 Fudara Cosmos×17 Midoro Cosmos×96 Yoguru Cosmos×45 Red Chip×140 Rainbow Chip×100 Power Amp×1600 Stabilizer×120 Engine Shaft×1704 Turbo Charger×91 Scope Lens×66 Rapid Crystal×1200 Drum Magazine×77 Guide Circuit×80 Snail Liquid×88 Prism Glass×200 Hulk Meteorite×400 Screw Bolts×600 Steel Wheel×700 Miracle Ammonite×240 Shining Feather×240 Generic Element×102 Superior Element×30 Tech Element×90
Holy shit, lol. |
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tehprognoob Ace Poster
Posts : 1712 Join date : 2011-07-22 Age : 28
| Subject: Re: Please help with some arts I put together. Thu Nov 08, 2012 11:19 pm | |
| 40/40/40 is sort of epeen booster tho | |
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Gerrion Wild Molcar
Posts : 2218 Join date : 2012-01-10 Age : 37 Location : Portugal (Europe)
| Subject: Re: Please help with some arts I put together. Fri Nov 09, 2012 5:30 am | |
| Just something to know: you can have either Float Dash or Boost Run. If you chose the two the former choice will be deleted... | |
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JadeCicada Regular Poster
Posts : 434 Join date : 2012-03-26 Location : DOS
| Subject: Re: Please help with some arts I put together. Fri Nov 09, 2012 8:29 am | |
| Incorrect. Boost Run is a running-type skill (and the only common bot cart for that), Float Dash is a dash-type skill (same as Short Boost and Sway). They don't conflict, for the same reason that Boost Run doesn't conflict with the other two. They just tend to make travel very boost-consuming if you don't have Quick Boost, but it's still quite manageable. | |
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Aurum_Sol Ace Poster
Posts : 1761 Join date : 2011-05-26
| Subject: Re: Please help with some arts I put together. Fri Nov 09, 2012 8:55 am | |
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