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Subject: Re: ALE bots and robo ag-chan, mbg-chan Thu Nov 08, 2012 4:36 pm
the only interesting gold is winbell, at least in my eyes
silvers rock,though. even byne girl
MagicPotatoplz Adept Poster
Posts : 898 Join date : 2011-08-03 Age : 104
Subject: Re: ALE bots and robo ag-chan, mbg-chan Thu Nov 08, 2012 5:56 pm
Gonna try and roll once.
Want: ALE Winberrl ALE Lily Rain Any silver except MBG-chan Scram Launcher Mod
Do not want: anything else
Undecided: Beam Gatling
What color is SPINEL's BS? pix pls
Suguri God Poster
Posts : 7765 Join date : 2011-01-07 Age : 25 Location : Japan
Subject: Re: ALE bots and robo ag-chan, mbg-chan Thu Nov 08, 2012 6:11 pm
MagicPotatoplz wrote:
What color is SPINEL's BS? pix pls
Spoiler:
JadeCicada Regular Poster
Posts : 434 Join date : 2012-03-26 Location : DOS
Subject: Re: ALE bots and robo ag-chan, mbg-chan Thu Nov 08, 2012 6:54 pm
ALE Jikun is interesting. She seems like a handy new bot for Haku (if you don't have some kind of 8-minute-clear setup) - inbuilt melee, can on-demand remove debuffs for Trap / Bind, also can gain Haste, and S sized to hold combis. I haven't mathed out the capacity and can't login to confirm, but considering her parts aside from those 70 cost AMs give her 14 STR and 20 WLK, she doesn't need extremely high tuning needs with good part setups.
Suguri God Poster
Posts : 7765 Join date : 2011-01-07 Age : 25 Location : Japan
Subject: Re: ALE bots and robo ag-chan, mbg-chan Thu Nov 08, 2012 7:40 pm
JadeCicada wrote:
ALE Jikun is interesting. She seems like a handy new bot for Haku (if you don't have some kind of 8-minute-clear setup) - inbuilt melee, can on-demand remove debuffs for Trap / Bind, also can gain Haste, and S sized to hold combis. I haven't mathed out the capacity and can't login to confirm, but considering her parts aside from those 70 cost AMs give her 14 STR and 20 WLK, she doesn't need extremely high tuning needs with good part setups.
A problem arises: Her melee is tec-based and only 60~70% of it is actual melee damage (the remaining portion being shell).
Koiro God Poster
Posts : 5490 Join date : 2012-09-16 Age : 26 Location : Somewhere in the state of Country
Subject: Re: ALE bots and robo ag-chan, mbg-chan Thu Nov 08, 2012 7:45 pm
Has anyone actually gotten the new A.L.E Jikun long yet? I wanna see her in action. Also, because of this gara I dunno if I should spend my monthly plan rt on this gara, the new gara unit 01 gara, or the summer gara. Tough choices, D:.
Suguri God Poster
Posts : 7765 Join date : 2011-01-07 Age : 25 Location : Japan
Subject: Re: ALE bots and robo ag-chan, mbg-chan Thu Nov 08, 2012 7:57 pm
Koiro10 wrote:
Has anyone actually gotten the new A.L.E Jikun long yet? I wanna see her in action. Also, because of this gara I dunno if I should spend my monthly plan rt on this gara, the new gara unit 01 gara, or the summer gara. Tough choices, D:.
I can get a vid up in a moment.
Koiro God Poster
Posts : 5490 Join date : 2012-09-16 Age : 26 Location : Somewhere in the state of Country
Subject: Re: ALE bots and robo ag-chan, mbg-chan Thu Nov 08, 2012 8:01 pm
Suguri wrote:
Koiro10 wrote:
Has anyone actually gotten the new A.L.E Jikun long yet? I wanna see her in action. Also, because of this gara I dunno if I should spend my monthly plan rt on this gara, the new gara unit 01 gara, or the summer gara. Tough choices, D:.
I can get a vid up in a moment.
Ah, thanks a lot Suguri.
Suguri God Poster
Posts : 7765 Join date : 2011-01-07 Age : 25 Location : Japan
Subject: Re: ALE bots and robo ag-chan, mbg-chan Thu Nov 08, 2012 8:15 pm
Forgot to put her arms back on but oh well, they aren't that interesting anyway (on her at least).
I'll dump Winberyl here too while I'm at it.
MagicPotatoplz Adept Poster
Posts : 898 Join date : 2011-08-03 Age : 104
Subject: Re: ALE bots and robo ag-chan, mbg-chan Thu Nov 08, 2012 8:25 pm
oh great more stunlock melee
Winberrl looks better than I thought she was, but she has such low ammo, and Winberrl AM seems like it's better than ALE Winberrl AM. I'd at least like them to buff her bind ammo a bit. (50 -> 80?) But I do like how she's Winberrl, Vesca, and Ellen combined.
Fireflywater Ace Poster
Posts : 1220 Join date : 2011-05-22 Age : 28 Location : The Undead Daily Garapon
Subject: Re: ALE bots and robo ag-chan, mbg-chan Thu Nov 08, 2012 8:34 pm
MagicPotatoplz wrote:
oh great more stunlock melee
Gets worse. Her BD main weapon increases movement speed. No big deal. However, if it lives up to the description, it removes negative status effects. This means she can only be hampered temporarily by Shock. Not cockblocked like shock to alot of melee users.
mindbreak Newcomer
Posts : 6 Join date : 2012-08-26
Subject: Re: ALE bots and robo ag-chan, mbg-chan Thu Nov 08, 2012 10:45 pm
I roll x5 > Superfly > i got 4 Blue Ball and 1 Red Ball WTF!!!
I tried again.
roll x1 >Superfly > A.L.E. Lily Rain
I think the gara rates are bad.
boytitan2 Fishell
Posts : 8639 Join date : 2010-12-23 Age : 31 Location : Buffalo NewYork
Subject: Re: ALE bots and robo ag-chan, mbg-chan Thu Nov 08, 2012 11:20 pm
That jikuns melee looks worse than momijis.
JadeCicada Regular Poster
Posts : 434 Join date : 2012-03-26 Location : DOS
Subject: Re: ALE bots and robo ag-chan, mbg-chan Thu Nov 08, 2012 11:38 pm
Suguri wrote:
A problem arises: Her melee is tec-based and only 60~70% of it is actual melee damage (the remaining portion being shell).
Huh. That's distressing. Weird, too, with all that base STR on her, but, so is as it is. :/
I'll still probably use her for the job anyway. The only portion the melee is important is Shield, and I don't imagine that the shell portion will even hit on that stage. And, well, the TEC-base won't be an issue until I start tuning, so, lada.
Fireflywater wrote:
Gets worse. Her BD main weapon increases movement speed. No big deal. However, if it lives up to the description, it removes negative status effects. This means she can only be hampered temporarily by Shock. Not cockblocked like shock to alot of melee users.
It does. It is a clearance effect, but not the debuff, so you can still have it reapplied if you stick around. It basically is an on-command debuff remove, although there's some delay with regards to having used it recently. Pretty handy, all things considered.
ziix Burger Molcar
Posts : 3460 Join date : 2011-01-30 Age : 29
Subject: Re: ALE bots and robo ag-chan, mbg-chan Fri Nov 09, 2012 7:47 am
oh god those brickgales ; _ ;
SL the Pyro Regular Poster
Posts : 364 Join date : 2011-04-26 Age : 34 Location : I snuck into your room as you read this sentence.
Subject: Re: ALE bots and robo ag-chan, mbg-chan Fri Nov 09, 2012 7:32 pm
I've discovered something... interesting about A.G.-chan FT, so interesting in fact that I asked CyberStep about it:
Quote :
Hello from the CosmicBreak Service Team.
Thank you for your inquiry.
The ability in question is not actually a bug, but a game balance feature. Due to the lengthened flight time of the Shaden BS, allowing the full charge from the A.G.-chan FT to take effect while that is in place would be unfair. The Full Boost Charge does work after the Shaden BS has been Purged, as a note.
Thank you for your interest in CosmicBreak. We hope to see you in-game soon!
Yes, I thought this was a bug rather than balancing. Don't judge me, we all know CyberStep doesn't always have their heads on straight.
For the record, the actual A.G.-chan's magical circle still refills the Shaden BS. This is just so you just can't self-apply it this way, which even I admit would be horrendously overpowered. (Reignition doesn't refill a Shaden BS either, before anyone asks.)
Suguri God Poster
Posts : 7765 Join date : 2011-01-07 Age : 25 Location : Japan
Subject: Re: ALE bots and robo ag-chan, mbg-chan Fri Nov 09, 2012 9:20 pm
They've actually done similar effects with boost refilling/consumption reducing effects on other bots too. For example propellant's effect is reduced to 1/5 its normal effect when used on transformed flapjack.
MagicPotatoplz Adept Poster
Posts : 898 Join date : 2011-08-03 Age : 104
Subject: Re: ALE bots and robo ag-chan, mbg-chan Sat Nov 10, 2012 12:01 am
Oh, why didn't anyone tell me Winberrl's EIWs increased ammo. I mean, yeah it's obvious but I didn't even realize she had any. She's much less disappointing now. (but I do hate having to take EIWs on supports)
Funds pls ???/
jeez how do i fit anything on her with this capa nvm I guess Shock Zook wouldn't be as good on her as it would on Regina since ALE gets superior binding faggotry
God is a Cat Girl Guinea Pig Wearing Sweater
Posts : 5296 Join date : 2011-04-25
Subject: Re: ALE bots and robo ag-chan, mbg-chan Sat Nov 10, 2012 2:57 am
ALE Lily's psygun is pretty shitty unless CS buffs it. Int is 1800, terribad. The projectile only seems to speed up after it break ups into 3, so it can take a long time till it speeds up. The buff doesn't really help much unless you have some other weapon that actually benefits of it. Or alpha with her, but her capa is so bad, that you either won't make full use of the buff, or just make a terrible alpha bot. You would be better with something else.
Her slicers are the same old hit with a slight difference that doesn't make it better, and you can't camp on ledges and use it anymore.
SL the Pyro Regular Poster
Posts : 364 Join date : 2011-04-26 Age : 34 Location : I snuck into your room as you read this sentence.
Subject: Re: ALE bots and robo ag-chan, mbg-chan Sat Nov 10, 2012 5:04 am
Guides are up for the new Chibi mechs.
>M.G.-chan EK >A.G.-chan FT
Seriously, why are links no longer colourable or underlined? It's frustrating when you can't tell what is a hotlink and what isn't.
blead wrote:
It's possible okay.
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Subject: Re: ALE bots and robo ag-chan, mbg-chan Sat Nov 10, 2012 7:43 am
mindbreak wrote:
I think the gara rates are bad.
Spoiler:
They are always bad.
boytitan2 Fishell
Posts : 8639 Join date : 2010-12-23 Age : 31 Location : Buffalo NewYork
Subject: Re: ALE bots and robo ag-chan, mbg-chan Sat Nov 10, 2012 9:42 am
LXE wrote:
mindbreak wrote:
I think the gara rates are bad.
Spoiler:
They are always bad.
No they have been getting worse. I remember you used to could get super flys and always get one gold. Now its like every gara has sugoi or mega gara rates if not worse. Only thing was it was ok for those gara to have shitty rates cause at the time everything in em was usable.
Astral_Dono 野獣先輩
Posts : 7875 Join date : 2011-06-10 Age : 30 Location : Mars
Subject: Re: ALE bots and robo ag-chan, mbg-chan Sat Nov 10, 2012 9:56 am
ALE Winberrl's bind restores HP with each bind damage. XD
yilx Regular Poster
Posts : 254 Join date : 2011-01-02 Age : 34 Location : Singapore
Subject: Re: ALE bots and robo ag-chan, mbg-chan Sat Nov 10, 2012 10:07 am
Astral_Goddess wrote:
ALE Winberrl's bind restores HP with each bind damage. XD
except that if you checked the in-game description, it's described as doing so right in your face.