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PostSubject: Elisalotte build - Kuzuha's   Elisalotte build - Kuzuha's EmptyFri Nov 02, 2012 4:32 am

NOTE: This is only a request from a fellow player. The build is focused mainly on the original Elisalotte version and not the School or New versions.

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PostSubject: Re: Elisalotte build - Kuzuha's   Elisalotte build - Kuzuha's EmptyMon Nov 26, 2012 10:54 am

Here's a new revised build of Elisalotte. Her survivability should have increased on this one.

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NOTE: Instead of increasing her TGH to 15, you have the option to just have her TGH stay at 13 and then use HP tunes instead (since Capa carts only increase HP by 11).

Downside of this build is that the High Gladiator tune has been removed. But if you can manage, then this build's for you.
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PostSubject: Re: Elisalotte build - Kuzuha's   Elisalotte build - Kuzuha's EmptyTue Nov 27, 2012 2:08 am

Here are some samples of my gameplay (I know, I suck). The build I have is the first one I posted in this thread.













P.S. Sorry for the poor quality.


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PostSubject: Re: Elisalotte build - Kuzuha's   Elisalotte build - Kuzuha's EmptyTue Nov 27, 2012 10:22 pm

Any tips you guys can give using Elisalotte will be greatly appreciated #em3

(I'm desperate since I don't have Glanz yet #em5 )
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PostSubject: Re: Elisalotte build - Kuzuha's   Elisalotte build - Kuzuha's EmptyMon Dec 24, 2012 4:16 am

Ok, some are asking me how to use Elisa. Well, gameplay always will depend on your build.



A)In this meta though, using this moe, you'll have to use hit and run tactics.

B)Pick targets that you can manage. If they're fagbots about to die, go ahead. But if possible, stay away from them.

C)Run away from airs. Unless you can reach or ambush them. Alphags are a no-no. Run for cover.

D)Using Chivalry Slash will be tricky. Check radar for any lands or arts after a teammate and then ambush them using this move. You'll have to practice fighting a lot of melee lands if you want use this move to its full potential.

E)Farm if possible. Besides the obvious items (rep bits, pillars, etc) do take note of other items that will be helpful to you:

-Parts Repair
> This is pretty good if your HD breaks especially while in Aura mode.
NOTE: I'm not 100% about this but there are 3 parts that break on Elisa. Her HD, AM (one you can equip a weapon with) and her core. It happened to me twice ( a very rare thing to happen) but was not able to confirm it with the 2nd occurrence it happened due to not having a parts repair kit. In any case, I was able to use her aura again after having it fixed.

-Traps
>I got best jammer just putting 4 traps at the opposing team's spawn. This can also be a life saver.

-Hypershot
>Obviously, this will shorten the interval times of your weapons. And your Chivalry Slash too. Spam them like there was no tomorrow.

-Wonder Drug
> So you won't run out of aura if you're unable to refill your WB Gauge with your Chivalry Slash.

-Hippos
>Quite situational. They can be used to block enemies after your hide. Especially those auto-aiming ones.

-Ammo
> It's best to take priority on this item if the ones that you need to break are Cactus-kuns (You can still destroy cacti using her melee, but it's not easy to assume the distance. Ashyru is able to do this while I fail at it)


Also...STAY AWAY FROM THE BIG TITTIED MOE WHO LIKES SWEETS! Unless you can manage without your items getting stolen.



I'll update some tricks about Elisalotte soon.



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PostSubject: Re: Elisalotte build - Kuzuha's   Elisalotte build - Kuzuha's EmptyMon Dec 24, 2012 5:04 am

Kuzu has neglected MBG chan for Elisa, such an affair. You lustful lustful man Kuzu

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PostSubject: Re: Elisalotte build - Kuzuha's   Elisalotte build - Kuzuha's EmptyMon Dec 24, 2012 5:21 am

derpElisa >Sad
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PostSubject: Re: Elisalotte build - Kuzuha's   Elisalotte build - Kuzuha's EmptyMon Dec 24, 2012 6:25 am

@Electric wrote:
Kuzu has neglected MBG chan for Elisa, such an affair. You lustful lustful man Kuzu

o/


Mai-chan's still my waifu. She just doesn't know yet #em8 #em8
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PostSubject: Re: Elisalotte build - Kuzuha's   Elisalotte build - Kuzuha's EmptyMon Dec 24, 2012 9:00 am

Ohh.
I got one Elisa in CBBR so this will help me alot Razz
I'm watching this thread now #em0
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PostSubject: Re: Elisalotte build - Kuzuha's   Elisalotte build - Kuzuha's EmptyMon Dec 24, 2012 9:39 am

@Frizz wrote:
Ohh.
I got one Elisa in CBBR so this will help me alot Razz
I'm watching this thread now #em0

Keep on using her until you get your gameplay. But Elisa's potential shows when she's fully tuned. Which might take some time orz
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PostSubject: Re: Elisalotte build - Kuzuha's   Elisalotte build - Kuzuha's EmptyMon Dec 24, 2012 11:14 am

#em3 omgomgomg this thread's finally updating! ty kuzuha..really, for the suggestions above.
http://www.cosmicbreakfanforum.com/t10873-feel-like-making-another-thread-for-elisa
uh..i really hope you can read this thread and make some suggestions..as you can see mines is a 20/20 hybrid, and im now planning to change from SB to sway. I feel like elisa's normal melee attack's tracking is really not as good, but idk if it will be fixed if i put a high glad on it like you did, and i tend to use more chivalry slash than princess chivalry so im a bit confused to tune which and tune for what..
but anyways this is totally great and i wish there will be more after Smile great work.
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PostSubject: Re: Elisalotte build - Kuzuha's   Elisalotte build - Kuzuha's EmptyWed Dec 26, 2012 1:22 pm

Here are some actions that some bots in CB can do. Though I'm only focusing on Elisa. I think there are players who already know what I'm going to show here.

Aura quick change:




Normal Melee hop attack:




Chivalry Slash Jump attack:




I can't seem to think of shorter names for those moves #em7
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PostSubject: Re: Elisalotte build - Kuzuha's   Elisalotte build - Kuzuha's EmptyFri Dec 28, 2012 4:36 pm

I have two questions concerning the Aura Quick Shift...
How do you perform this? I've done it a few time in the past by accident, and it would help to be able to do it often. This can also be done multiple times if we pick up EIWs?
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PostSubject: Re: Elisalotte build - Kuzuha's   Elisalotte build - Kuzuha's EmptyFri Dec 28, 2012 10:54 pm

How to do this:

Just run and then shift to your core key (by hitting "E" if you have your sword as your main), let go of the direction key (WASD whichever you're holding) and then right-click to activate the core.

Things to remember:

1) A bit tricky when using with Boost Run cart but it will work.
2) You should be running in one direction when you do this. You can curve a bit but this might reset the step counter in most cases. If that happens, you just activate aura normally... or you get the aura bug (this also happens to Glanz).
3) You have to take a couple of steps before changing. Around 4-5 steps would suffice. Reason here is because you activate mobility carts(sway, short boost, dash) if you take 2-3 steps.
4) I didn't get EIWs but, yes, you should be able to do this multiple times (3 anyway lol).

This feature works on Elisa Glanz too.


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PostSubject: Re: Elisalotte build - Kuzuha's   Elisalotte build - Kuzuha's EmptySat Dec 29, 2012 4:24 am

Got the hang of it after a few tries. Thank you very much!
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PostSubject: Re: Elisalotte build - Kuzuha's   Elisalotte build - Kuzuha's EmptySat Dec 29, 2012 4:52 am

heh, didn't know that trick worked on bots other than Aila. Interesting.
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PostSubject: Re: Elisalotte build - Kuzuha's   Elisalotte build - Kuzuha's EmptySat Dec 29, 2012 1:09 pm

It also works on MBG-A. But doesn't on MBG. That's why I thought it only might be a feature on some bots.
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PostSubject: Re: Elisalotte build - Kuzuha's   Elisalotte build - Kuzuha's EmptySat Dec 29, 2012 2:18 pm

@Kuzuha wrote:
It also works on MBG-A. But doesn't on MBG. That's why I thought it only might be a feature on some bots.
I guess it used to be considered a bug and was then made a feature, because that saves LazyStep from fixing it (Monica).
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PostSubject: Re: Elisalotte build - Kuzuha's   Elisalotte build - Kuzuha's EmptySat Dec 29, 2012 4:14 pm

Monica has one too? o.o

EDIT: 1000 views now o.O
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PostSubject: Re: Elisalotte build - Kuzuha's   Elisalotte build - Kuzuha's EmptyTue Mar 05, 2013 5:10 am

Can't say the 2nd build I posted in this thread will still be viable. Or even useful after the recent patch where Stun Regain doesn't work anymore when revenge CV is activated. Derp. Now I'm thinking if I should get that extra 1 capa cart or Quick Jump. Though 1 capa cart will give more advantage in stats when tuned but QJ will increase my offensive/defensive tactics. I better observe for the meantime.
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PostSubject: Re: Elisalotte build - Kuzuha's   Elisalotte build - Kuzuha's EmptyMon Apr 15, 2013 11:49 pm

Builds I posted aren't that much effective now after the sway nerf. Of course, this includes CB faggotry in the current meta. Until I get a better grasp of a new play-style, I won't be giving tips on using her. Maybe some. Whatever. #em5
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PostSubject: Re: Elisalotte build - Kuzuha's   Elisalotte build - Kuzuha's EmptyTue Apr 16, 2013 3:01 am

>Sway nerf

Wait what why

Also, that sounds distressing since I want to learn and like Elisalotte.
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PostSubject: Re: Elisalotte build - Kuzuha's   Elisalotte build - Kuzuha's EmptyTue Apr 16, 2013 3:35 am

@NovaZero wrote:
>Sway nerf

Wait what why

Quote :
- The Custom Dash Action Sway will have its speed lowered. The speed
will be most lowered when using Sway to move forwards, with less
significant reductions when Swaying sideways or retreating.
Furthermore, M and L-size bots will see their Sway speed less reduced than that of S-size bots

Abt three weeks ago.
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PostSubject: Re: Elisalotte build - Kuzuha's   Elisalotte build - Kuzuha's EmptyTue Apr 16, 2013 5:24 am

Assault Step Cart...
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PostSubject: Re: Elisalotte build - Kuzuha's   Elisalotte build - Kuzuha's EmptyTue Apr 16, 2013 6:07 am

@Kuzuha wrote:
It also works on MBG-A. But doesn't on MBG. That's why I thought it only might be a feature on some bots.

This also works with Ivis Reine.

If you do this with Patty Lop's wonderbit summon, her wonderbit will activate, but won't appear. However, I can't get it to do that in arena...

Cosmic Bugs.
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