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PostSubject: How about suicide tank build..   How about suicide tank build.. EmptySat Oct 27, 2012 6:07 am

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Need Opinion please how about this build are good on current metagame?

just got a brigand baron and never play tanker bot ..

dun want to do much damage but want to live longer in enemy base. Basketball

*my opinion
i don't tune walk because it unnecessary for tanker build..
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PostSubject: Re: How about suicide tank build..   How about suicide tank build.. EmptySat Oct 27, 2012 6:09 am

Should work pretty well. My only concern is CV's not going to proc reliably with that much tgh, but when it does get up that massive tgh reduction is going to be nice.
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PostSubject: Re: How about suicide tank build..   How about suicide tank build.. EmptySat Oct 27, 2012 6:14 am


Is a cartridge ok?


boost run on low walk.. i don't have any idea.
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PostSubject: Re: How about suicide tank build..   How about suicide tank build.. EmptySat Oct 27, 2012 6:30 am

All the same carts I'd be taking, looks good to me.

I'd consider dropping tgh a bit to get wlk up to at least 23(24 for boost run?) though. I just kinda glossed over before but 14 is miserably slow even if you're just tanking.
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PostSubject: Re: How about suicide tank build..   How about suicide tank build.. EmptySat Oct 27, 2012 8:02 am



i see.. then i would leave that walk to 14 cause

i'm not going to chase an enemy just spam an axe around

PRAY A GOD FOR CV ACTIVATE..


oh more 1 question..

is shell guard good?
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PostSubject: Re: How about suicide tank build..   How about suicide tank build.. EmptySat Oct 27, 2012 8:05 am

Before you could get to spam your axe, you need some walk to rush into the crowd anyway.
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PostSubject: Re: How about suicide tank build..   How about suicide tank build.. EmptySat Oct 27, 2012 8:17 am

It'll get trick of actually hitting things with him. Whenever I see a brigand axe build it's biggest problem seem to be fast targets.
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PostSubject: Re: How about suicide tank build..   How about suicide tank build.. EmptySat Oct 27, 2012 9:39 am

More question

is a tanker got score??

or just trade cost around if don't attack

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PostSubject: Re: How about suicide tank build..   How about suicide tank build.. EmptySat Oct 27, 2012 11:37 am

Contrib, mostly.
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PostSubject: Re: How about suicide tank build..   How about suicide tank build.. EmptySat Oct 27, 2012 11:52 am

Once they smell the cake, it's like built-in Leadership award. You might want to look for heal groups or clusters of fat ARTs, this might get you a high damage score (but damage isn't all really).
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PostSubject: Re: How about suicide tank build..   How about suicide tank build.. EmptySat Oct 27, 2012 12:30 pm

thank you.

Now i tune him to 38 tgh ( except cv for test)

i see that toss him into a situation

IF 1vs1 other lands ( Eris sylvia )
: he got a high number damage then 7 sec to die ... very fast. Around 90+ dmg lol

IF 1vsCrowd plus other lands
: he can still at last never more than 20 sec and die


this so i see that if cv doesn't activate

he is a FREE COST bot to enemy ... should i go to cv already?

(afraid that not worth ...)
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PostSubject: Re: How about suicide tank build..   How about suicide tank build.. EmptySat Oct 27, 2012 12:41 pm

It's worth it, you'll need it.
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PostSubject: Re: How about suicide tank build..   How about suicide tank build.. EmptySat Oct 27, 2012 1:29 pm

oh, yeah, ehmm, if you haven't noticed already he's using dual slayers while having -tec
don't know how efficient that would be..
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PostSubject: Re: How about suicide tank build..   How about suicide tank build.. EmptySat Oct 27, 2012 4:11 pm

blead wrote:
It's worth it, you'll need it.

no.
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PostSubject: Re: How about suicide tank build..   How about suicide tank build.. EmptySat Oct 27, 2012 4:49 pm

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oh, yeah, ehmm, if you haven't noticed already he's using dual slayers while having -tec
don't know how efficient that would be..

Mmh, that's a waste of Dual Slayer bits indeed. Try either dual spike bit for insta stun/WB dodge. It'll also grant you some extra capa.

Crimson Veil is always worth it, especially in conjunction with Stun Regain and the high TGH you're planning to use.

The speed is really low though - maybe a little less STR for some extra WLK?
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PostSubject: Re: How about suicide tank build..   How about suicide tank build.. EmptySat Oct 27, 2012 5:59 pm

May I suggest Sea Lion LG (may be called Walrus LG), or Baltheon LG?

Both are very very stat efficient and give massive HP.
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PostSubject: Re: How about suicide tank build..   How about suicide tank build.. EmptySat Oct 27, 2012 7:32 pm

sea lion in EN, walrus in calc, and it gives so much free stat it's ridiculous. The HP gain itself outstrips cost oAO.
And it's UC/farmable so no need to bother with Rt for Balth LG
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PostSubject: Re: How about suicide tank build..   How about suicide tank build.. EmptySat Oct 27, 2012 10:14 pm

Zwiebel Force wrote:

Crimson Veil is always worth it, especially in conjunction with Stun Regain and the high TGH you're planning to use.

No.


theprognoob wrote:
sea lion in EN, walrus in calc, and it gives so much free stat it's ridiculous. The HP gain itself outstrips cost oAO.
And it's UC/farmable so no need to bother with Rt for Balth LG

if you have THREE slotted baltheon legs aviable they will be the better choice, sea lion legs are fine if you dont have the baltheon legs with THREE slots
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PostSubject: Re: How about suicide tank build..   How about suicide tank build.. EmptySat Oct 27, 2012 10:22 pm

Baltheon with 3 slots will have to be gara ;_;

Sea Lion 3S can come off arena/friend/arcantus as far as I know
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PostSubject: Re: How about suicide tank build..   How about suicide tank build.. EmptySat Oct 27, 2012 10:26 pm

3slotted sea lion legs are in SUC gara (or at least they where at some point in time, didnt keep track of its contents, so yeah)
many players propably have a bigger stack of 3 slotted sea lion legs, just ask around at bazaar if you want some. they will propably seel them of really cheap since fat tanks are not a very common build to be seen around
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PostSubject: Re: How about suicide tank build..   How about suicide tank build.. EmptySat Oct 27, 2012 10:45 pm

Aurum_Sol wrote:
No.

Then please explain. ( ・_・)
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PostSubject: Re: How about suicide tank build..   How about suicide tank build.. EmptySun Oct 28, 2012 12:30 am


Then i ask about... boost run chart..


GREEN TIER IS OK?

I retune him and got stat around this

3cv
32 str
29walk 1fly (green tier)
38 tgh
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PostSubject: Re: How about suicide tank build..   How about suicide tank build.. EmptySun Oct 28, 2012 12:37 am

I'd go less tgh for 40str but yeah that sounds good

you could even go a tier or two lower if you wanted to, most of the melees I build (not that I play melee often) are 23~25 wlk without boost run.
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PostSubject: Re: How about suicide tank build..   How about suicide tank build.. EmptySun Oct 28, 2012 4:57 pm

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Aurum_Sol wrote:
No.

Then please explain. ( ・_・)

again?

lets bring it down to the very basic, at 40 toughness it will require 88 dmg in a small timeframe to flinch you, if you know that much the rest will come to you naturally
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PostSubject: Re: How about suicide tank build..   How about suicide tank build.. EmptySun Oct 28, 2012 5:55 pm

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blead wrote:
Aurum_Sol wrote:
No.

Then please explain. ( ・_・)

again?

lets bring it down to the very basic, at 40 toughness it will require 88 dmg in a small timeframe to flinch you, if you know that much the rest will come to you naturally
If you say it, it sounds like melee wouldn't auto-stun you. There'll always be some smart-ass geso-whip user you know...:X
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